stuart: it's shades of ronald reagan firing workers in the 1980's patco. >> exactly. stuart: president obama is not in a position to fire port workers and the people who run the ports, they're not going to fire them, they'll just let them walk out, that's what's going on. >> well, look, this didn't work out well for the hostess company and for twinkies, so i feel like somebody has a to take a hard stand here, if we keep letting it happen over and over again, it's a situation. whether it be with congress or strikes, there need to be consequences for people's actions, stuart. stuart: you're right. here we are at the end of the year, we've run out of money and a fiscal cliff crisis on our hands, dock workers are probably going to go on strike. it's coming to a head and we thought everything would be resolved by the election we had a couple of months ago, it's just not working, is it. >> no, it's not. we thought it would be a slow news cycle and certainly that's not happening. stuart: no, no, no, it's not happening. of course in the news business, that's kind of good news