that was patricia espinosa- i'm _ poorer countries. that was patricia espinosa.oined by— poorer countries. that was patricia espinosa. i'm joined by head - poorer countries. that was patricia espinosa. i'm joined by head of. espinosa. i'm joined by head of policy at globaljustice now. thank you for your time. i spoke to you at the beginning of this summit and i asked you about your hopes and expectations for this summit. what is your assessment today? hello and aood is your assessment today? hello and good morning- _ is your assessment today? hello and good morning. thank _ is your assessment today? hello and good morning. thank you _ is your assessment today? hello and good morning. thank you for - is your assessment today? hello and good morning. thank you for having | good morning. thank you for having me again. i have been listening to the previous speakers and the challenge that we face here and the challenge that we face here and the challenge that we face here and the challenge that i see is the us always gets what it wants from climate negotiations and wa

the un's chief climate negotiator patricia espinosa was also asked about the decision in the final agreementthat for the first time in this context we mentioned coal and fossilfuels. before it had not been possible. because there are so many different realities, we have to be very conscious that there are millions of people also that depend on fossil fuels industry and in terms of goal there are many people, especially vulnerable and poor people, that also depend on that as a source of energy. so it is really a very difficult issue. on the one hand we have clarity but that is a very big source of emissions and we need to get rid of that. on the other hand we need to also balance out the social concept, for so many people around the world, especially poor countries. i'm joined now by chaitanya kumar, head of environment at the new economics foundation think tank. let's talk about loss and damage, we heard a lot about out over the last couple of days in glasgow, essentially money to help those countries most vulnerable to the impacts of climate change, deal with what has already happened. that