hugh jackson the guy to change this culture and why? i want to bring the coach in. one guy i liked was matt patricia. one of the reasons is because they called him matte y matty patty and he had a real cool beard and could teach us how to cheat and not get caught. farmer got caught last time. do it without getting caught kind of. when hue came in and i got a chance to see him, the one thing i always talked about on "tailgate "with the with coaches is i wanted somebody like marty. somebody who wore their emotion on their sleeve. you could just see if they were happy or sad or upset. >> brian: not a flatliner. >> nothing like the monotone voice. nothing against the other guys. when i saw hue using more than one tone and joking and jumping into the dog pound, we might of course, his background, too. obviously, it's not just about being an emotional guy, but certainly has the background. i called mark davis from the raiders. his dad was the owner back when i was there. mark, he said, no, he's a good guy. we just wanted to make a change back then. so they liked him. >> tia: we have hue jackson. what do yo