patricia murphy in washington. it was a hard date, get this done by august. he clearly just kind of slid it in there by the end of this year. >> yeah, in your words, t.j., ain't going to get it done, it's not happening before august. it may not even come out of the senate committee before august. there are all sorts of moving parts right now on health care. when you envision health care, think of marbles bouncing on a hardwood floor. that's what's happening in congress right now. members of congress don't know exactly what's in these plans, some of them have not been finalized, they are being pushed by their leadership to come on board and say they're going to support these plans, and all of this still has to form. we don't know what's going to happen. it's not getting done before august. >> why does it sound like at least nancy pelosi, the house speaker, hinting that she still wants to push for something by the recess? why would she be doing that? >> well, she wants to get it done and she said last week she has the votes. and it was unclear at that moment if