, patricia ramsey died in 2006. john ramsey has written two books about them, both of them pro claiming their innocence in every form imaginable since the death of their daughter in 1996. >> mike taibbi live for us in boulder, colorado. mike, thank you. >>> big backlash for big brother this morning. the obama administration vowing to review its surveillance practices as european leaders demand talks. they found out we're spying on them and they're really, really mad. or are they? an adviser to president obama promised a thorough review. lisa monaco wrote this op-ed, an assistant to the president for homeland security. at the same time the paper hit the newsstands, european union leaders were meeting in brussels, leaders including angela merkel, francois olan who were reportedly spied on, want formal talks with president obama. >> for us, spying on close friends and partners is totally unacceptable. >> and here's the guy, here's the guy who put all of this in the open, edward snowden, of course, who told "the guardia

the grand jury agreed with public perception at the time that john and patsy ramsey, john and patricia ramseyal name in the indictment, were considered to be the suspects at the time. a two-part indictment under the general rube rick of child abuse resulting in death. the first count said that each of them, each of them did knowingly and recklessly permit a child to be placed in a situation where there was the threat of injury which resulted in the death of jonbenet. in the second count that each of

both john and patricia ramsey denied killing their daughter but they were not cooperative with the policebeginning. both refused to submit to polygraph tests. after months of pressure they were sit down and separately questioned by the police for the first time. in september of 1998 a grand jury officially launched its investigation. it lasted 18 months and those findings are what were released this hour. however, the district attorney back then refused to charge the parents citeing a lack of evidence and then fashion forward to 2006. jonbenet's mother, patsy ramsey passed away after a long battle with ovarian cancer. in 2009 the boulder colorado, district attorney, different one, wrote an apology letter to john ramsey officially exonerating both parents in jonbenet's death. joining us ashley merchant a criminal defense attorney, dan schorr a former prosecutor. thank you both for joining us. let's get right to what the grand jury had to safety they recommend ad charge of child abuse leading to death. they did permit a child to be unreasonably placed in a situation which posed a threat of

26th, 1996 -- that's when we know jonbenet was killed in her parents' home -- that john and or patricia ramseyin a situation which posed a threat of injury or death to a child's health. and itless says they render assistance to prevent the discover and conviction and punishment of such a person. in laymen's terms, we're understanding this to me that the grand jury had some kind of involvement in their daughter's death. that they should be held responsible for that involvement. but it does not clarify or necessarily pin the murder on them specifically. >> it makes you wonder -- i'm sorry. it makes you wonder who that person is. who is that person they're referring to? >> reporter: and again that -- well, that's the big question. that's the murder mystery that continues to hold true today. they have dna of the person they believe committed the murder. the dna that was found on her clothing, on several items of her clothing, that they know belongs to a male. and it's somebody unrelated to the family. so as a result of that dna evidence, the district attorney several years after the grand jury ind