it warm fertile walk back to library, patricia sullivan, william, professor of history at the universityh carolina. the author and editor of books including lift every voice, naacp and making up for civil rights movement. days of hope, democracy and a new deal era. freedom writer. her new book is justice rising. robert kennedy's america in black and white. our moderator for this discussion, kenneth is the inaugural professor of law and harvard university. in constitutional history with a particular emphasis on race relations and economic life. creation of the civil rights lawyer. coeditor of the new black. what changed and what has not. welcome back to both of you, thank you for joining us this evening. >> it's a pleasure to be here with my old friend, patricia sullivan to talk about her amazing book. for the viewers, are going to have a conversation about 7:00. you can submit questions, for shipping instructions on the screen around seven or so, transition take q&a. but it started. i would like to start with origins of this book about bobby kennedy civil rights. most of your career, his