mark: in terms of your life today, what would you say is the most patrician thing about you? gov.hafee: you cannot run for office as a republican in a very democratic rhode island without appealing to the people. i was reelected as the mayor in my city three times. i am very proud of that. mark: do you own any pants that are limegreen or red? john: if you could do a close-up on the tie. you have a wife and three children. two of them are girls. if you take the female contingent, how would those people feel if you were to run for president and deny them the chance to vote for the first female democratic nominee? gov. chafee: everybody wants to have a female president at some time, but you have to have the right one. elections are all about choices. she will get a lot of support because she is a woman. she has to defend her lack of accomplishments. what has this woman accomplished in her long career? not a lot comes to mind. health care debacle, the iraq war vote. as secretary of state, the world is way in worse shape. john: will you have to earn the vote of your wife and daughters?

which certainly is not like the character one thinks of as being standoffish patrician, wrote.ink. we had a drink. we hit it off. charlie: became instant friends. michael: i do not want to suggest he was an easy guy. he could be prickly. he was cool. he held himself aloof. he liked to talk. charlie: he loved to talk. michael: he loved to talk. he was capable of listening and also capable of enormous generosity and hospitality. i don't like my chances if i had wound up in london colleen kingsley a miss or someone like that. i don't think he would have said, come over and have a drink. or norman mailer. charlie: how did this friendship evolve? michael: rome was a small city really. especially the ex-pat community. there were any number of artists and filmmakers who lived there. frequently they got together at gore's place. it was days after i met him that i bumped into him at another function. our paths continue to cross. he found out i was reviewing tennessee williams's memoirs. he asked him to pass along the galleys. in those days, before instant communication and the internet.

which i think certainly is thought like the character one thinks of as being stand offish and patriciank, we hit it off. >> rose: you became instant friends. >> yes. you know, i don't want to suggest that he was an easy guy because he was, he could be a8rysr[gv prickly person. loved to talk. he was capable of listening. he was also capable of enormous generosity and hospitality. and i've often pointed out to people i don't like my chances if i had wound up in london calling i don't know are kingsly aim es or someone like that. i don't think they would have said come right over and have a drink or if i called norman mailer i'm in brooklyn i would like to see you. >> rose: how did this friendship with gore vidal evolve. >> rome was a small city, especially the expat communities. there were a number of artists and film makers who lived there and frequently they got together at some place and it wasn't days after i first met him i bumped into him at some other function, some other restaurant. and our&cross. and the,d)q he found out that i was reviewing tennessee williams memoirs and he aske

he moved to the right when he became reagan's vice president but george bush was a quintessential patrician still has a lot of those mannerisms. it will be a fascinating campaign because the republicans always try to do the really conservative thing and they always end up nominating the more moderate mainstream person which would be jeb bush. and they're going to try it again and i think jeb bush probably wins but this year there's a lot of anger in the republican party and a lot of redefining of who they are and when that happens, it's going to be a big deal. >> amy? >> my only reaction to chipotlegate apparently like the fast food wars begin, is wearing sunglasses inside. i thought that was odd for hillary to be doing that. but it's april. >> oh no she was going -- i thought she was being -- >> so you're still hung up? you were out of the country when hillary -- you still want to talk about this story. [ laughter ] i wear sunglasses all the time. >> do you? in fast food restaurants? >> in night, at bed. >> that's security video. i think they wanted to be under the radar and i will explain

in the neighborhood of 800 active officers still left in the city of san jose even after all the patricianns at lane:00 in the morning at the s.a.p. center and it follows a procession beginning about 30 minutes from now. going to start in los gatos. we'll follow all of today's events on nbc bay area starting at 10:00. you can also see the coverage on the website, nbcbayarea.com. much more to come on that. first, we'll have a look at weather and traffic after the break. >>> welcome back now. the time is 9:28. clear sky over san francisco. same blue sky over san jose. and temperatures are still cool enough for a jacket but we're going to end up 5 to 8 degrees warmer than yesterday. 72 on the peninsula, 74 in the tri-valley. warmer for tomorrow and a few showers expected for easter sunday. >> a slower drive just starting to recover right here palo alto, both directions between willow marsh, iicide say, and university. the crash, either side of the camera view. both are starting to clear, the southbound side slower. northbound slow san jose an easy drive. 280, there's still a little congestion