infamous december 18th meeting that the former president had with mike flynn and sydney powell and patrick burns were, and whether anything could be done about the fact that biden had won. there was some discussion about making flynn the chief of staff. so to your point, you know, this is not -- this is not a side show, this is a separate show, but it is very real, and there are people who follow flynn and who believe in what he's saying, but i want to reiterate, i have no idea what he's talking about. >> maggie, i want to ask what your sources are saying about this idea that former president trump and some other republicans are kind of dangling the position of house speaker over kevin mccarthy. clearly that is a position he wants to seek if republicans do retake control of the house. but there has been this idea floated by steve bannon, by mark meadows, that maybe former president trump could be speaker of the house, which, of course, technically is possible, but seems not likely. but is this something that you think the former president is kind of holding over kevin mccarthy? >> i think at mi