>> i prefer the poetry of patrick cavanaugh if you read roy foster's -- the ageneral thys magi, there's a real lesson in there for me because you see all the local problems he gets into and all the letters he's writing put out fires and god you could have been writing poetry, that's so insignificant. >> rose: what makes a songwriter >> you know, i -- that is -- you know i -- drug of choice. >> rose: that's the drug? >> for me. i cannot believe that you have this melody line in your head and you take it down and you find words for it and an arrangement for it and the next thing you know you can be in a car in tokyo and it's on the radio. that's really my drug of choice and songs are everything, really to us in the band and people say that the songs are like your children. no, they're like your parents. >> rose: (laughs) >> really. they tell you what to do. they tell you how to behave. they tell you how to misbehave. how to dress. everything you do is directed by the songs and it's a mysterious process. a mysterious process. you sort of wait. they find you if you're in the right place and