paul: patrick collison from stripe, i have known since he was, like, 14. back when he was this high school kid in ireland, he used to email me questions about the lisp programming language, and i had no idea he was a kid. emily: now that these companies are worth multi-billions of

i had lunch with patrick collison.ounder of stripe. 100% of the conversation was about giant, take-over-the-world ambitious plans. and that is like the best possible office hours. emily: how involved are you, jessica? jessica: i'm still very much involved. i'm doing all of the same things that i used to do. if not engaged in different things. i miss working with paul, but i also love working with sam altman. emily: now sam was actually the founder of one of your very first companies. paul: yeah. emily: loopt. when you stepped down, there were certainly people out there who said he is not cut out to be you. paul: it is a good thing he's not cut out to be me, because i was not cut out to run something as big as y combinator is now. he is better than me at this. emily: come on, jessica. paul: i was good to giving advice to founders. emily: is sam going to be better than pg? jessica: well, they're going to be different. sam brings a lot of things to the table that neither of us had, which is this amazing amount of energy a