why won't you let patrick cunningham, head of the criminal division in phoenix and emory hurley come -- a prosecutor, why don't you let them come and talk to the committee. if you won't let them do it publicly, you ought to let them do it in a private setting. why won't you let them do that? >> first, for the record, i was only a deputy attorney for four years. seemed like six. >> seemed like longer than that for me. >> all right. longer than six for me as well. >> would the gentleman yield? >> i'll be happy to yield. >> since mr. cunningham has taken the fifth, i would say none of us have that direct authority. to add to that would you make all information on mr. cunningham unredacted so we may evaluate to a great extent what you know about why he took the fifth? go ahead. i yield back. >> in terms of making available, i'm not sure where you get the number of 93,000 documents. the redactions that occurred are only because there are things that are either not relevant or are protected by grand jury secrecy rules, court orders that have sealed material. we have provided to this commit

skilled attorney and you get t one of the things our investigators did, when they got got to patrick cunninghamook the fifth. we are now exploring, the attorney general to his credit said he would consider it, we are now exploring a limited use protection, you know, so that -- or in fact he can't claim the fifth. right now we are very, very concerned and as soon as we read through the documents that we expect them to deliver we will explore how we get testimony from this individual. and if we can't, we already have scheduled both above and below him the kinds of additional depositions so we can bracket why it is that a high-ranking career professional, in charge of prosecutions for all of arizona, is taking the fifth and leaving government. >> i hope you are not satisfied with simply the answer by the attorney general that he didn't authorize t it's whether he knows who did it and who knew about it because these are just grossly incomplete answers. and congressman, i will take the last word on that. thank you, sir. >> thank you, greta. >> coming up, the gop race heats up in the desert. the neva

we have a witness we tried to interview who took the fifth, patrick cunningham who headed the criminalrizona. last but not least we have two informants given a pass on any kind of criminal prosecution because quote they are cooperating witnesses. they were front and center on financing these guns. we have a right and obligation to know on behalf of the cherry family why two people so connected to the murder of brian terry are never going to be prosecuted. megyn: let me jump in. what's happening now is withholder having gone before the committee six times, some people are saying more and more now, this is political. that it's looking political because he keeps getting pulled in there, the committee is never satisfied, they want more and more documents. now there is a threat to hold him in contempt of congress. the doj would have to even 40s contempt order. to those people who believe this has gotten political, what say you? >> first of all, five of the six times he went to committees of jurisdictions for other reasons and simply was asked a question about fast and furious. he went to ap

why won't you let patrick cunningham, the head of the criminal division in phoenix, and emery hurley come -- a line prosecutor -- why won't you let them come and talk to the committee? if you can't let them do it publicly, you ought to let them do it in a private setting. why won't you let them do that? >> well, a couple things. just for the record, i was only deputy attorney general for four years. >> okay, four years. [laughter] >> seemed like longer than that. >> would the gentleman yield? >> be happy to yield. >> since mr. cunningham has now taken the fifth, i would say none of us have that direct authority. but to add to the gentleman's question, would you make all testimony and information on mr. cunningham immediately available to us unredacted so we may evaluate to a great extent what you know about why he took the fifth? go ahead. i yield back. >> well, in terms of making available, um, i'm not sure where you get the number of 93,000 documents. the redactions that have occurred are only because there are things that are either not relevant or are protected by grand jury secr

why won't you let patrick cunningham, the head of the criminal division in phoenix, and emery hurley, why won't you let them come and talk to the committee? why won't you let them do that? >> a couple of things. just for the record, i was only a deputy attorney general for four years. it seemed like six. >> it seemed like longer than that for me. >> with the gentleman yield? >> i would be happy to yield. >> since mr. cunningham has now taken the fifth, i would say none of us have the direct authority, but would you make all testimony and information of mr. cunningham's immediately available to us, unredacted, so we may evaluate what you know about why he took the fifth? i yield back. >> in terms of making available, i am not sure where you get the number of 93,000 documents. the reactions that have occurred are only because there are things that are either not relevant or are protected by a grand jury secrecy rules, court orders that have sealed material. we have provided to this committee material that is relevant and only redacted that which is necessary. with regard to the two peop