patrick fitzgerald was the prosecutor. that's what i call for failing to stop. and why is that important? you're going to hear in a few minutes. you'll under why that case happened. so mccarthy and fitzgerald, they have a list. who's on the list? bin laden, the brother-in-law, and ali mohamed as i told you was an fbi informant. now at the time if you will control in fresno is a guy named john send who is involved in the murder case involving the ewells family. he literally hired a guy to kill his entire family in cold blood. it's a very famous case. see him being locked up. okay. john interfered with the police investigation. and then later, years later, literally was a character witness. and dana of course was convicted. he just missed getting the death penalty. an this fbi agent who is suppos to be controlling ali, his daughter the fiance for the filler and he vagues for the guy. that tells you something. he's supposed to be making sure he's on the straight and narrow. okay. that's his daughter. okay. now, i didn't gi you the whole payoff. let me go back. you'l

of the bottle the attorney general started the first investigation that's morphed into the patrick fitzgerald invectigati probe dick mell created his son-in-law and basically planted the seeds to destroy him. >> host: why did rod blagojevich have dreams to become a president and why were they possible? if you go back seven years you would say there is a young politician a young democratic politician who will become prident of the united states bere 2010 everybody would think you were talking abo rod blagojevich. it makes him sound like he is a character on a "saturday night live" bute had a gre deal of political skill. i not necessarily mean governing but polital skill. can you talk about he is not just a cartoon character. there's a lot to this man as a politician. >>uest: have so they when h won e governorship and first-time 2002 and seriously inking aut runnng for president, it was not unrealistic. he just one governor of the fifth largest state, a pulist campaign, he was appealing, the voters responded he knew how t raise money and as he was being talked about it was not unrealistic for o

attorney patrick fitzgerald, let's start there. itzgerald was here and i could interview him and i wish i could, and let me not try and speak for him. but let me say what many other prosecutors might say, yes, that is the system, rick and politicians have to go out and scrounge for money for people to get elected. but this guy blagojevich, listen to what he did, he was shaking down the children's hospital to not give them the funding until he got from them apparently some campaign contributions. he told the tribune, i'm reading again from what he said, he told the tribune and sent a message to the tribune that if they didn't fire their editors, he wouldn't work with them. so he's saying that you went beyond the pale, did you? >> as you are saying those things, those things are completely false and completely a travesty of what the real truth is. in both of those cases, when the full story comes out, you will see that it's upside down. in fact when it comes to children's health care, i was the first governor in american history to gi

as described here by prosecutor patrick fitzgerald. >> this is a sad day for government.ment. governor blagojevich has taken us to a truly new low. he attempted to sell the senate seat, the senate seat he had the sole role under illinois to appoint to replace president obama. john harris, his chief of staff, schemed to send a message to the "chicago tribune" that if the "tribune" company wanted to sell itsfield wrigley field in order to complete a business venture the price of doing so was to fire certain editors, including one editor by name. there's a hospital, children's memorial hospital believing that is getting $8 million, but its ceo has not coughed up a campaign contribution, and the thought that that money may get pulled back from a children's memorial hospital is something that you cannot abide. >> joining me now from new york, rod blagojevich. mr. blagojevich, thank you for being with us, sir. >> thanks for having me, rick. thank sxlu first, let's talk about chris kelly. he was your adviser, just died over the weekend. lots of stories floating around out there.