the acting attorney general dave patrick fitzgerald under the terms of his written to investigate the leak all the authority of the attorney general in the matter. that's what it said. that effectively undermined doj's long-standing policy making a very tough to subpoena journalists. because you need the attorney general's express approval is, to issue a subpoena to a journalist when the attorney general is there. that's not often forthcoming but you also need other stand to be met as well. patrick fitzgerald, having effective unilateral subpoena authority, subpoena judith miller, matthew cooper, other journals. judith miller spent 85 days in jail. if anything i think highlights just how tightly doj and the government has found itself in the normal case, setting -- unlikely to yield prosecution because it shows a system that really wants to catch leakers looks like him and it's pretty harsh. >> thank you for that reminder that this conversation started well before the obama administration, and we are so focused the present -- we did a conference at the old center i think for a five ye

um, the acting attorney general comie gave patrick fitzgerald under the terms to investigate the leak all the tools of an attorney general. that's what it said. that effectively undermined doj's longstanding policy making it very tough to subpoena journalists. .. we did a conference at the center for five years ago. this very topic. that listen to today, we are really -- we think ravenous similar conversation, but were not. where now looking toward solutions and remedies and where we stand in terms of law and policy. but you know when not we have actually come some distance. at the next panel where guys talk about. some coffee, and some cookies and come back. thanks. [inaudible conversations] >> heavy rain and wind from hurricanes and the prompted the closing of the federal government monday and tuesday. still expected to hold pro-forma sessions on tuesday. debates in campaign events along the east coast have been canceled. president obama and republican nominee mitt romney canceling their tuesday events. and just tonight we learned that the final debate in the massachusetts senate ra

patrick fitzgerald having effective unilateral subpoena authority and they spend 85 days in jail if anything that highlights just how in the normal case it's setting up a likely to yield prosecutions because it shows us the system that wants to catch the speaker's and it's pretty harsh. >> thank you for the reminder the conversations data before the oil well administration and we are focused on the present moment we did a conference with four or five years ago on this very topic of secrecy i went through the transcript was light and now i've listened today i want to say we think we are having the same old conversation but we are not. we are now looking towards solutions and remedies and where we stand in terms of law and policy actually saw we've come with some distance which is the next panel was going to talk about, so did some coffee and some cookies and come back. thank you. [applause] many of the that we plan to ever have been cancelled and we will keep you up-to-date with any announcements as the storm makes landfall later today. we understand they scheduled a conference call this afte

fitzgerald and mark plotkin. >>> a news alert in virginia. congressman jim moran's son patrick resigned from his father's campaign after he s caught on camera talking to someone about how to commit voter fraud. it was shot in virginia october 8th. that is a group headed by james o'keefe, the man who did the a.c.o.r.n. undercover videos in 2009. the man with the camera approached him and repeatedly asked how they can vote for 100 specific people who don't usually vote. >> put the name and address. [ indiscernible ] that is the law. >> to protect and they just have -- for eight mines. [ indiscernible ] >> the raw video shows the conversation continued for 18 months. congressman moran hasn't released any statements at this point. >>> new evidence offers insight into the deadly consulate attack in libya. fox news showed an al qaeda affiliated group claimed responsibility within hours of the deadly ambush. a portion claims the group claimed responsibility on facebook and twitter. the documents challenge initial statements made by u.s. officials five days after the attack. the obama