joining me right now, patrick gaspard, the united states ambassador to the country of south africa. k you, patrick, mr. ambassador, for being on tonight. why are you thrilled by the chance to represent this country in south africa, the biggest potential in africa economically? >> well, chris, as you know, i was very actively involved in the anti-apartheid movement as a young person coming up. not that long ago i was helping to organize arrests in front of the south african embassy here and always had a profound affinity for the country as you do as well. this moment of inflection for africa, we're seeing more direct investment instead of foreign aid, i thought it was a great opportunity to come and make a marker for our country in south africa. >> let me ask you about african-americans, a lot of whom watch this show. i meet them everywhere. do they have -- is there a growing -- i've always thought there wasn't a great affinity for africa the way there is some people toward their backgrounds, me and the irish, jewish people in israel, europe. is there a gap there? >> i've seen a prono

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