well, for more, i spoke with patrick gaspard, former us ambassador to south africa.ing us. during your time as ambassador and since then, you have been in buildings like the one involved in this tragedy. can you tell us a little bit about what the conditions are like? thank you for having me on in such unfortunate circumstances and a need to face a condolences to all those effected by this horrible fire and to the people of johannesburg and south africa. we hope they will weekly recover. i have been in that community, used to be the central business in the apartheid area. i saw it first in 1990 and then over the years as it deteriorated. there is a particular building which is not very farfrom particular building which is not very far from that location, that i had the occasion to visit. it was full of migrant workers, struggling women with children, completely dilapidated, no running water, no electricity, people living literally one on top of one another inside the complex, it was a complex taken over by a cartel, built out of scaffolding, township type housing and