or change just as i'm quoting patrick henry whatever we made that declaration that we never fulfilled in that it became sort of a waste to not that we would make that work for real exactly the opposite the overseas another country person who are barely white upperclass from the world that's not really embarrassing for all of us. to what extent i mean should the obama administration get credit i mean as we know his is the first that actually appointed a person a position in the administration to focus specifically on human rights violations and it's hard to say that you know when compared to his predecessors obama is doing worse i mean shouldn't he get some credit. of course he should and we were very pleased that the first thing he did was to sign that there would be no more of these kinds of organizations but he's impact to carry through guantanamo still better than black sites are still there are torture still being used as a as a standard operating procedure by us and intelligence forces are still using companies like block. he has tried there is an inherited possible code leaking

did not actually fire again at the offices let's get more on this is totally dependent general patrick henry joins us now live from london partly thanks for being on the program and how do you think the rioters were reacting to this latest news tonight. the news that the ballistics test came back wasn't mark duggan yeah. i don't think it really matters at this point the chain of events has taken its own turn it spiraled out of control as you know the tottenham demonstrations which turned into riots had a political shape to it what happened with the copycat what i call retail riots in brixton on sunday night has no political shape whatsoever and also the stuff that fold up. in other areas along the like lewisham in ealing is strictly criminal enterprise has nothing to do with political power you can spin it one way or another but at the end it just comes down to opportunity you witness some of these riots yourself first time where did you witness the taking so what you saw. well to be honest it's one of the most shocking things i've ever had the displeasure of seeing was in brixton early mond

i think progress decisions etc there should be no more iraq or change and i'm quoting patrick henry so whatever separation we never build in that it became sort of a waste to not that we would make up for israel exactly the opposite that overseas another country would persons who are merely white upper class and from the world does not. mean i'm going for all of those. but to what extent i mean should the obama administration get credit i mean as we know his is the first that actually appointed a person a position in the administration to focus specifically on human rights violations and it's hard to say that you know when compared to his predecessors obama is doing worse i mean shouldn't he get some credit. i'm pretty sure that we were very pleased the first thing he did was to sign that there would be no more of these kinds of organizations but he's been very through town and most still there the last nights are still there tour still being used as a as a standard operating procedure by us and intelligence forces we're still using companies like block. he has tried various. inherited

we're no longer, at least in part, a nation of patrick henrys who say give me liberty or give me death. there's a lot of people that say protect my life at any cost, including my civil liberties and torturing other people to do so. >> you can ask him a question and he will say words after the question, but that doesn't mean you're getting an answer. >> absolutely. >> let's listen to what matt lauer asked cheney about a portion of his book in which he criticized your former boss, former secretary of state colin powell. >> one of your most pointed criticisms about him is this, "time and again i heard that he was opposed to the war in iraq, indeed i continue to hear it today, but never once in any meeting did i hear him voice objection." i think you now know colin powell insists he told the president about his objections to the war in iraq and in his memoir, president bush specifically says he knew about colin powell's reservations, so why are you barking up this tree? >> well, i wrote the events as i participated in them. the fact of the matter is, if you look, for example, at my comment

virginia followed suit after patrick henry's starting call for liberty or debt and a declaration of war against britain. his call echoed across the continent and rose so many americans on july 4th, 1776 all 13 states declared independence from britain. and who were those original tea partiers, who were those men on the shifts that sparked a revolution and helped bring down the one entire and create another? who boarded those ships and dumped the tea partiers in the boston harbor? sam adams hancock at the time they swore never to reveal each other's names, to prevent their arrest for treason committed immediate death on the gallows. while the earnings remain secret for decades after the tea party, but they are now listed in my new book. the list will surprise you. one irony of the tea party, however, is that none of those who dumped tea into the boston harbor rose to prominence in the government of the nation that emerged from the revolution command that's because the kind of men who lead the revolution and destroy the government's, pierre and france, the sam adams in america, seldom hav

course of the revolution, there is a back and forth between the speed will and the new state, patrick henry and edmund pendleton kerry and they eventually get religious freedom. i won't talk about it too much. it's in the book. i want to talk about the third thing. i'm sure many of your interested in the third discovery, which is if you're going to deal for religious freedom come if they will fight come to pick up our guns and march to north slope. we want religious freedom. what are you getting for this deal? how do you do find that freedom? what i discovered was that these evangelicals, 18th century evangelical baptists and presbyterians, sons luther in common method is really coming on the scene in virginia. what they got was a very robust, we might even say almost modern religious freedom in their mind. i'll give you two examples. i'm a christian nation issue, is this a christian nation we are fighting for. the evangelical said absolutely not. if the government has the power to make this a christian nation, they have the power to make it a presbyterian missionary baptist or methodist or

course of the revolution, there is a back and forth between the speed will and the new state, patrick henryand edmund pendleton kerry and they eventually get religious freedom. i won't talk about it too much. it's in the book. i want to talk about the third thing. i'm sure many of your interested in the third discovery, which is if you're going to deal for religious freedom come if they will fight come to pick up our guns and march to north slope. we want religious freedom. what are you getting for this deal? how do you do find that freedom? what i discovered was that these evangelicals, 18th century evangelical baptists and presbyterians, sons luther in common method is really coming on the scene in virginia. what they got was a very robust, we might even say almost modern religious freedom in their mind. i'll give you two examples. i'm a christian nation issue, is this a christian nation we are fighting for. the evangelical said absolutely not. if the government has the power to make this a christian nation, they have the power to make it a presbyterian missionary baptist or methodist or

course of the revolution, there is a back and forth between the speed will and the new state, patrick henry and edmund pendleton kerry and they eventually get religious freedom. i won't talk about it too much. it's in the book. i want to talk about the third thing. i'm sure many of your interested in the third discovery, which is if you're going to deal for religious freedom come if they will fight come to pick up our guns and march to north slope. we want religious freedom. what are you getting for this deal? how do you do find that freedom? what i discovered was that these evangelicals, 18th century evangelical baptists and presbyterians, sons luther in common method is really coming on the scene in virginia. what they got was a very robust, we might even say almost modern religious freedom in their mind. i'll give you two examples. i'm a christian nation issue, is this a christian nation we are fighting for. the evangelical said absolutely not. if the government has the power to make this a christian nation, they have the power to make it a presbyterian missionary baptist or methodist or