we reference patrick henry, did you hear about this? school board in unanimous to change the name of a school named after patrick henry. the board saying patrick henry high school is getting a new name because 18th century revolutionary was a slave owner. many strongly oppose the change arguing it will be rewriting history of the expansion of new signage could go to needed resources. the carry of the names since 1986 and should be changed no later than 2023. keep in mind patrick henry said give me liberty or give me death. >> carley: minor change. >> todd: hollywood business owner springs into action tackling who punched and robbed a man at the pizza shop next door. we took to the good samaritan about that crazy encounter. >> carley: another, leaving the state after laundromat targeted nonstop by criminals. he is here to tell us how bad things got and where he is headed home at coming up next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ the new gmc sierra. premium and capable. that's professional grade. when we started selling my health products online our shippin

patrick henry made quite the speech in richmond, something about a liberty and death. but now, now we have independent companies. because of that speech, virginia now has an army of armed man in virginia all greeting england. well, that may have something to do with the governor leaving town last night. but, seeing as they are not here, what do you say we go upstairs and the private chambers of the family. right this way. here we are, it's quite a few stairs up to this floor. i suppose that is a trouble with high ceilings, so many stairs. but this is the largest bed chamber in the house. it belongs to lady catherine and lady augusta, they're the oldest of the children. they are 15 and 14 years of age. i think they left in a hurry last night. you see these young ladies have the largest bed chamber because they also take their lessons here in the house. that bed over there is for their governess, mademoiselle -- . yes, a french governess! we may not like the french but we do like their style. very important that these young ladies speak french, they will be presented to

it was also the home of patrick henry and thomas jefferson. the house was a very important part of the design of the town of williamsburg, the town was had a very orderly design. the palace would have been part of that design. it was the third largest building in town, consisting not only of the building that we are standing in but to advanced buildings, extensive gardens with terraces, a canal, there was a sculleries, a laundry, a kitchen and a seller. and we know that one governor had over 5000 or 6000 bottles of wine stored in his cellar. the house today is a reconstructed building on the original archaeological site. it was open to the public in 1934. since that time it has undergone a number of refurnishing's and reinterpretation's. today, we furnished the building as if governor dunmore was living here with his family. at the end of 1774, lady dunmore gave birth to a daughter who they named virginia. unfortunately things went a little sour in their relationships with the governor and virginians and in june of 1775 the governor and his fa

before there was patrick henry.story in that chapter of three people who are going to be significant over the next 15 years. my story starts in 1761. one of them is skeptical of the people who will call themselves patriots. he actually is the most in americanyalists born loyalist on the continent by 1775. and what b is stunning is that most people even really read people do not really know his name or don't really know his story. his name is thomas hutchinson. he's going to become the royal governor of virginia of massachusetts excuse me it's my story delete begins he is american born. if you had asked someone as late as 1770 or so definitely 1765 which of these two famous boston born smart people going to end up supporting american independence and who is going to end up siding with the king? and benjamin franklin thomas hutchinson bothnj boston born bh very smart. people might have said franklin's going to end up supporting his illegitimate son is the royal governor of new jersey. and hutchinson will side his fell

and he is new england's patrick henry and it was patrick henry before there was patrick henry. and i tell the story than that chapter of three people who are going to be significant over the next 16 years and one of them is skeptical that he actually is the most common loyalist by 1775 and what's stunning is that most people don't really know his name or his story. he's going to become the royal governor and he is american-born and if you had asked someone as late as 1770 or so definitely 1775 which of these two favorite boston were smart people would end up supporting american independence and who would end up siding with the kingdom of benjamin franklin, both of them boston boys really smart, people would have maybe said franklin, his illegitimate son is the governor of new jersey and hutchinson will side with the with his fellow new englanders. so lots of people that are more obscure, but i think hudson in particular because i want my audience knew there was another side even to the american revolution. if he were alive today and what does it mean that all? he is mitt romney

he's new england patrick henry and john adams would say he was patrick henry before that was patrick henry. i tell the story in that chapter of three people who are going to be significant over the next 15 years, my story starts in 1760-61. one ofneea them is skeptical of these, the people who call themselves patriots. he actually is the most prominent loyalist, american-born loyalist on the continent by 1775. and what's stunning is that most people, even really well read people, don't really know hisw name or don't really know his story. his name is thomas hutchinson. is going to become the royal governor of massachusetts. he's lieutenant governor, american-born. and if you would ask someone as late as 1770 or so, definitely 1765, which of these two famous boston born smart people is going to end up supporting american independence and who ig going to end up siding with the king, benjamin franklin or thomas hutchinson, both boston born, both really smart, people might've said franklin will end up supporting the king, his illegitimate son is a royal governor of new jersey and hutchins

and that's why patrick henry could so clearly come back and say how dare you say we the people. we should say, we the states. and that shift, certainly there were concessions to the states, like the senate, giving equal representation to the senate. but the key, change the key change from the articles of confederation is that the senate is not like the articles of confederation. because the articles of confederation, each delegate, yes, they each day got one vote. but their delegates were recall -able at will. not by the people but by the state legislature. so, that's why it's different than what you're talking about in california. there, you're saying the governors recall-able by the people. in his opening speech, roger sherman made a major point. no, the reason why the articles of confederation work is those delegates are recall-able at will by the states, meaning the state legislature. they weren't going to have any of that. no, the way they set up was the senators, sure, each state gets two, that gives some power to the states, but they are not recall-able at will. they have

new england patrick henry and he was before patrick henry tells the story in that chapter of three people who are going to be significant the last 15 years, it starts in 1760 and 61. one of them is skeptical of the people who call themselves patriots. he's the most prominent loyalist, american-born loyalist by 1775 and what is stunning is most people, even well read people don't know his name or storyna. thomas hutchinson, he's going to become the royal governor of massachusetts, when my story begins, he's lieutenant governor, american born. if you had asked someone as late as 1770 or so, definitely 1765, which of these two famous boston born smart people will end up, american independence and who will end up siding with the king, benjamin franklin or thomas hutchinson, both really smart, people said franklin will end up -- illegitimate son is the governor of new jersey and hutchinson side with his fellow new englanders so lots of people were obscure but i picked hutchinson in particular because i want my audience to see there was another side even to the american revolution. if thomas hu

patrick henry said give me liberty or give me death. of our country and to learn that history is something that i believe our children need to learn. but maybe this is an error. maybe it's inadvertent error and not going to vote on it. they are going to meet today. >> brian: if you did not mean it you don't say it's inadvertent error. you go out and say we never said this it's been misinterpreted maybe they didn't want it to get out that's my interpretation. you rebuke that of course the virginia department of education of course george washington is the father of our country. we will clarify this later on today. if you can't clarify that in a statement that george washington is the father of our country. little by little you are trying to rip it out. remember, donald trump said this four or five years ago in the controversy that happened in virginia before. he said all right, going to take down civil war statue who is next, george washington? thomas jefferson? they had slaves. yeah, a few years later they are coming for both. and patri

yeah patrick henry ratifying in public statements before how dare you say we the people created used to say we the states. >> you miss the states and the states create this. it is the people the whole country. >> in some way it more or less with the league of friendship which is the treaty as gordon calls it in the articles of confederation created the league of friendship here were 13 sovereign states and legs together. but if you go back to the document i keep hammering on the letter of the states washington says we need a central government that is the final say in everything that is common to all of us. common to all the states which wouldn't be slavery or education. you can think of things that it wouldn't be. it wouldn't be international and interstate commerce he makes that clear. he also says in the circular letters this is indivisible. once you join you can't get out. he said that the circular letter of 1783. we need a central government, one sure and it's a one-way ranch it. by saying that commerce and many people argue it wasn't just taxation. the certainly everybody would

part of history we'll tell is our founding fathers, including george washington and madison and patrick henryed a role in founding of our nation. the department says the proposal was inadvertent error. citizens of michigan wanting to see crime come down, see cost of living managed better and saw that in virginia lasts year, making the comparison between the two states. >> todd: truth coming out joe manchin. >> cheryl: he's got a zinger, senator manchin all but admitting inflation reduction act will not relieve inflation in the near term. >> it is misleading to call this inflation reduction act for americans when it will not make -- >> why would it, immediately it is not, we never said anything would happen immediately, like turn the switch on and off. >> cheryl: president biden signed the bill into law on tuesday, he also took a nice swipe at republicans for not supporting the bill, but republicans of course as you know say this will not do anything to help inflation. >> todd: why would it? it is called inflation reduction act, that is why. >> carley: thanks for letting us know after the ink

patrick henry was an anti-federalist and he hated the system. he had argued against it, campaigned against it but this is what he said. although the form of government into which my countrymen determine to place themselves at my enmity yet we are all and one embarked, it is natural to care for the crazy machine so long as we are out of sight of a port to refit. he was the loudest critic of the constitutional system. he wrote that, too, his protege and other anti-federal resists, james monroe, at the close of the first congress. so we're always out of sight of a port in american politics. we're always going forward, not quite knowing how it's going to work out except that the going is going to be kind of tough politically. and it's true the great machine of government that we've been bequeathed may seem crazy at times, maybe most times. it will never work perfectly but we canals make it better. and i think the former members, this wonderful organization i'm a great fan of, has an important role to play in the struggle to restore confidence in gov

fathers including george washington in james madison and let's not forget about thomas jefferson and patrick henrynary role in the founding of the nation. suparna dutta and fairfax county mother joins me now. thank you for being here appear the department of education calling this an error. how do something so wrong get floated like this in the first place? >> good morning. that is a question, yes, that is what we heard was the matter. i do understand that this has been a year or a year and a half or so, but that is what we were told. it was just an omission. >> todd: here is one of those department of education members, board president, in fact, downplaying the outrage, meticulous end. >> all of a sudden, virginia doesn't want to recognize george and madison. that is sort of a silly thing to pick up. >> what do you make of that dismissive tone? >> he is the president of the board of education. well, i can understand his frustration. i think maybe the department of education was caught flat-footed, and it was unfortunate. so, i can understand his point of view. but it is pretty egregious to parent

i am a student at patrick in the -- patrick henry college. you mentioned psychological drives of love and fear but i was wondering how christian realism thanks about honor that seems to be a primary motivation in human nature. china, it has been given a bad rap, but i think honor is a very important force in human relations. and you mentioned how britain had to come to terms in the postwar period that they were a nation in decline. i think that some of that mood still dominates today and i was wondering, how does christian realism think through that? >> this is why i think transatlantic and perhaps global christian the illogical -- grow lowball -- global christian theology is important in this. what does it mean to think among the ruins, as augustine wrote? as he is writing, he is deeply aware of the fact that rome is falling, it is falling apart. the great empire. the great center of civilization. those of us who are orthodox will remind you it protested -- it persisted until 1853 -- but one of the ways this is accessed and recognized is tha

so but there were people who passionately opposed to james monroe wasn't an opponent patrick henry. give me liberty. give me death. that man opposed the constitution and was bitter about its passage. massachusetts was a squeaker. they got it through but the other really big state was new york new york is huge as we still know today new york the most important states of all so it was alexander hamilton who wasn't from any state who realized that people better? stop better? stop being provincial and better get it together and understand that we all need each other, but he lived in new york and he very much identified with new york, and he married in new yorker. and he became the principal organizer of this publication called the federalist papers and in the federalist papers what they did is they spelled out all the reasons why new yorkers should vote for this thing and make it true that there would be a the united states not simply a these united states and the word they used i found this very interesting. actually. this is based on my own research, but it's there for anybody to see

you know, patrick henry's letter, or, you know, so-and-so 's snuff box.t was really very much a -- focus. i find it really fascinating, especially in a post civil war context where relics became really mainstream, the idea of collecting these things became very important. you start seeing at the same time these massive world fairs annex positions happening across the globe. so, there is an interesting collecting and categorizing, figuring out what's important, what do we need to save? so, i think it's telling that from the early day, at least the harvey sisters, who solves submitted, like, you could basically be like, here, i think this is something worthy of displaying. and they probably would put it on display. so, i imagine they had the -- to do that. yeah, it's not a great answer for your question. but i definitely advise going down that rabbit hole. >> thanks. all right, so, another question, there was a letter, matthew, that you put up that stated that the road was gonna cost $53. any idea how much money that would've been today or, you know, what's

patrick henry, you can't name anybody who was a leader of the revolution in places like pennsylvania or virginia who was not also a land speculator. taking all that land and making a part of ohio, making it a part of quebec, all that areas that are now the state of ohio, indiana, and great illinois. that really cut the legs off of the land speculators and made them really mad. so that was certainly a factor. >> well, i want to, as we are getting closer to the end, i wanted to open it up for you to say any closing thoughts. i know there were some other things you wanted to talk about, in terms of -- whether it was militia or regular armed soldiers who won the war. >> let's do that one, let's do that. one bryan, can you go to the very, i think it's maybe the second to last slide or the last slide, it's got two images. one is, it's the same map, you can't tell us the same up, but once an aerial photo. that's it, that's it. so guys, this is in compass is the whole thing that i was trying to do in the book. so, at the bottom one is an aerial map of the battle of cal pins, where that was f

will: give me liberty or give me death, patrick henry, our final founding father.ing the name of a community college to patrick and henry -- pete: yeah, yeah, you add the first name, then you're good. will: what i was going to say to fully appreciate that these young men signed the declaration of independence, that was signing their death warrant. they knew full well what that minute and who would be coming for them. pete: that's exactly right. they were classically trained, they understood the bible, other forms of government and tyranny, and as a result through that training at the young age still of 40, these young men were willing to put their lives on the line. give me liberty or give me death. i love this one too, advocate for basic natural rights. that's where the inalienable rights to come from, the belief that our rights come from god not from a ruler. which was unique in human history. so while he may have owned slaves and the others did well inside their cultural context, and that is undoubtedly regrettable, they were phenomenal men with unique if talent

jefferson, adams, or hamilton before he was not a brilliant speaker like his fellow virginian patrick henry. what george washington was, was a leader. he was a man of phenomenal courage physical and moral courage. he could spot great talented and other people give them a chance. to the bestie picked he picked within about two weeks after first meeting them. nathaniel green and henry knox. and he picked them despite the fact they were new englanders any dislike new englanders ardently. he thought they were the bestie had and the heat they were the bestie had. those two men, green and knox with washington are the only general officers who stayed the entire length of the war. who did not leave, who would not quit. >> you are watching the tv. and so, last summer when the comments being made by the republican candidate for the presidency were not only appalling but unimaginably out of place, i thought what can i do to provide some counter point of view to this and i started thinking about some of the speeches that i gave at national occasions such as the 200th anniversary, the anniversary of the

one of the key elements you have patrick henry and george mason saying this militia in order to keephe enslaved in check james madison has put control over the federal governmente under congress can we cannot rely on the feds to defend us. we are folks from pennsylvania and massachusetts they are not here to defend us. we need to have the protectionel or we will be left defenseless. after ratification they threatened to have a new constitutional convention and madison was scared added his that jeepers and that is a political term but that gave the federal government to enhance the powers but there was a fear federal government was to powerful. but when you think of the bill of rights and freedom of religion the right to a speedy and fair trial and not to have cool and unusual punishment to have the militia and security of a free state? that was the outlier. that is basically to say do not hold the new constitutional convention you are protected and the militia is safe. host: we surprised whatt you found about the second amendment? >> yes. i really was. that discussion today it's abou

and while virginia wasn't so sure about this constitution thing one of the key elements you had patrick henry and george mason saying you know, this militia that we need in order to keep the enslaved in check , james madison has put control of that under the federal, so we can't rely on the feds to defend us when the enslaved rise up. because the federal government had folks in there from pennsylvania and from massachusetts . they're not going to be coming down here to defend us so we need to have the protection or we will be left defenseless. and they basically threatened to scuttle ratification. when that didn't work they then threatened to hold a new constitutional convention. madison was scared out of his bejeebers. that's the scholarly term. because the articles of confederation had not worked so they had pushed through this new constitution that gave the federal government enhanced power. but there was this fear that the federal government was too powerful. and this is why we had in the first congress the bill of rights. but when you think about that bill of rights, freedom of religion.

and why virginia was not sure about this constitution thing, one of the key elements, you had patrick henry and george mason saying, this militia that we need in order to keep the enslaved in check, james madison has put control of that thing under the federal government, under congress. so we cannot rely upon the feds to defend us when the enslaved rise up. the federal government has folks from life pennsylvania and massachusetts. they are not going to be coming down to defend us. so we need to have the protection or we will be left defenseless. they basically threatened to scuttle ratification. when that did not work, they threatened to hold a new constitutional convention. madison was scared out of his bujeebers. the articles of confederation had not worked. they worked through this new constitution that gave the federal government enhanced powers, but there was this fear that the federal government was too powerful, and this is why we have in the first congress the bill of rights. when you think about that bill of rights, freedom of religion, the right to not be illegally searched and s

this is absurd and outlandish and when i've point it had out is a quotation from patrick henry, an anti-federalistho strongly opposed the constitution precisely because it gave the government way too much power and the people not enough to rebel against the government. and when i pointed this out, my friend, mr. roy of texas who is by far the most articulate and able defender of this doctrine, concedes that i'm right about the constitution, but shifts over to talk about the declaration of independence which i cheerfully concede is a revolutionary document and which explained why after a long train of an i -- abuses and usurpation we needed to dissolve with england. that's the point. we're governed by the constitution, in nowhere does it have right of insurrection, and a matter of constitutional law, but natural law people can decide to overthrow the government, but you do that on your own time and own risk. the constitution does not give you the right to destroy the constitution and the government another way to understand this point is to think about nonviolent civil disobedience. even nonviolent

henry kissinger, the u.s. secretary of state. l patrick gray, the former acting director of the fbi. diane sawyer, who worked for a while before going to network television in the nixon white house. john dean, who was nixon's counsel. pat buchanan, a nixon aide who later ran for president three times. he sought and failed to win the republican nomination. alexander hague who was nixon's chief of staff later in the watergate period. ron ziglar, he was a press secretary, the one who referred to watergate as a third rate burglary. these were all among the candidates, these and many more were identified as likely sources. likely to have been deep throat. there were college courses, one of them at the university of illinois, that spence semesters digging through the clues and all the presidents men to try to figure out who the most likely source was. one of these efforts identified pat buchanan, the arch conservative republican who seemed on his face to be quite unlikely to have been deep throat, but since he was a native of washington or, had lived in washington for many years, he knew s

henry kissinger the us secretary of state el patrick gray the former acting director of the fbi diane sawyer who worked for a while before going to network television in the nixon white house john dean. who was nixon's council in the early days of the watergate scandal pat buchanan, who is a nixon aid who later ran for president three times? sticking and failing to win the republican nomination for presidency alexander hague who was nixon's chief of staff later in the watergate period ron ziegler, he was the press secretary. the one who mentioned who referred to watergate famously as a third rate burglary. these were all among the candidates these and many more were identified as likely sources. likely to have been deep throat. in fact, there were college courses. one of them at the university of illinois that spent semesters. digging through the tips and clues and hints and all the president's been to try to figure out. who the most likely source was? and one of these efforts identified pat buchanan an arch conservative republican who seemed on his face to be quite unlikely to have b