this is a live look at the residence where the pope is staying and i believe this is patrick horn beck help me out, is in the cathedral. >> inside space he will pray before going back outside to celebrate mass. >> okay, and from here patrick let us just pause for a moment and talk about the popularity of this pope among ordinary americans because there are 70 million catholics in the country. >> absolutely. >> his message resinating to people beyond that? >> absolutely, this pope has managed to attract people from across the political spectrum and maybe more on the left than the right. we know democrats agree with him more often than republicans do. i'm not sure that is entirely true when you actually compare their positions but certainly he is attracted people by his lifestyle. we have talk a lot this morning i think rightly so about the fiatt so he pulled up in front of the white house in a little tiny car and last night at the press briefing his spokesman said if you want to find the pope there it is, there is the fiatt. >> it's funny when you say fiatt, we are talking about the lit

. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> patrick horn beck is the chair of fordham university's theology department he is providingntary for us all week on the pope's vicvisit. first of all, patrick, what is being sung? >> this is a service calls vespers in the roman catholic that i think, monks, previouses lung play the liturgy of the hours five times or more every day stopping to prayers that include music, somes, in this case the pope will gym a homily or sermon. cardinal dolan. we have just heard song 31 being sung in spanish the pope's native language by a member of the choir there at st. patrick's the music was written bite director there jennifer pasqual who is the first music director at the historic church. >> terrific. have you had an opportunity to read through the pope's homily his remarks to be made later? >> i think what he will do is address the clergy of the city of new york and the archdiocese of new york. there has been a pattern established throughout the trip where the pope has spent the mornings talking about public policy. he was at the white house yesterday, congress to the. the u.n. tomorro

. >> patrick horn beck the chair of theology at the university, thank you so much for your insights nowseveral days of big events are in store for the pope, one of the biggest from a religious point of view happens later today, the cannization of sarah and the most controversial events during this visit, and libby casey is now live from washington with a preview and hey, libby good to see you. >> i'm at the shrine where pope francis will come this afternoon to celebrate mass and indeed advance the cannization of sarah and this is america's first hispanic state and of course pope francis is our first latin american pope and this is a significant event but it is not without controversy as you mentioned. and he was a spanish missionary who came to california in the 18th century and converted many native americans. unfortunately native americans wh who were on the missions in california were not allowed to leave after converted and they who did were penalized and floinged and a lot of native americans said this may not be a man who deserves cannization and that as side sarah is representati

let's bring in patrick horn beck. you talk about the popularity of pope francis, a pom says that 63% of american catholics approve of francis. beyond that, 41% of ordinary americans, who don't necessarily identify as clicks. have we seen that before? >> absolutely, stephanie, people all across the religious spectrum find something new and appealing in this pope. the numbers among catholics, i think may be a little low. previous polls were 70, possibly the high 70's. what may be happening is that people grasp a little bit more of the pope's full message, the full agenda. they're finding that he doesn't fit neatly into any of our american political categories. this is not a pope of the democratic party anymore than the republican party. because of that during his visit to the u.s., he's going to challenge everybody to think a little bit more about what his message is and how that relates to the important things now in american public life. >> people keep saying it's a pastoral visit and not political. >> pope francis be