joining me now is patrick kennedy. and mr. y, why did you choose to make this the kind of cause of your post-congressional career? >> well, as you know, chris, i was the author of the mental health addiction equity act which went into effect on july 1st this year. that changes health care as we know it because now mental health and addiction will be covered like all other illnesses. and that is a sea change in health care. so i found myself going around to the different states to promote really implementation of the mental health law and then i came across both the medical marijuana, which is really a trojan horse for legalization, and the whole concept of adding to the burden that our society faces with addiction by legalizing another drug. i agree with lee, i think opiate abuse has really been fueled by availability and accessibility of oxycontin and other drugs. why do we want to double down on that and add another psychedelic drug? and frankly, you know, people can get marijuana today. i concede that, but, you know, the dif

former congressman patrick kennedy who has admitted to battling drug addiction, said legalizing marijuana is a slippery slope. >> it will ultimately set up a marketplace for the commercialization. with the commercialization, you'll have a marketing campaign targeting kids. >> reporter: a concern shared by some other parents. >> we do not know the outcome, except that the best evidence is that you lose -- if you would use marijuana as a teenager regularly, eight iq points, but i don't have eight to lose. >> reporter: the "times" noted there is still debate about the health risks. president obama has said he thinks marijuana is no more dangerous than alcohol, but he is not expressing support for legalizing it at the federal level. meanwhile, two more states, alaska and oregon will decide whether to allow marijuana for recreational purposes later this year. >> kristen, thanks. >>> when we come back, it was found in a flea market. the personal meeting of this american flag for one military family. >>> cooperstown, new york, today. the class included pitchers greg maddox and tom glavine, frank

in an interview from "meet the press," patrick kennedy who has admitted to battling drug addiction saidalizing marijuana is a slip ary slope. >> it ultimately will set up a marketplace for the commercialization. and with commercialization, you'll have a marketing campaign targeting kids. >> a concern shared by some other parents. >> we do not know the outcome except the best evidence is that you lose -- if you use marijuana as a teenager regularly, eight iq points and i don't know about the rest of the table, but i don't have eight to lose. >> the times noted there is still some debate about the health risks. president obama said he thinks marijuana is no more dangerous than alcohol. but he is not expressing support for legalizing it at the federal level fl meanwhile, two more states, alaska and oregon, will decide whether to allow marijuana for recreational purposes later this year. lester? >> all right. thank you. >>> when we come back, it was found at a play market, the very personal meaning of this american flag for one military family. thank ythank you for defendiyour sacrifice. an

community anti-drug coalition of america and project sandwich was a group started by congressman patrick kennedy who got busted on painkillers wrecking his car and decided that marijuana was the ultimate evil drug in america where you see our pharmaceutical companies funneling money into these organizations to advocate against. marijuana legalization laws you also see the prison industrial complex companies related to that like private prison companies police unions and you see beer and tobacco companies coming out in funneling money into campaigns to stop ballot initiatives that would. legalize or decriminalize marijuana it just seems completely immoral for like the organization for drug free kids is accepting money from giant pharmaceutical companies that are peddling tells it doesn't you don't see these same organizations putting the same effort in toward into getting people hooked or giving people their addictions to address the addictions people have toward get in or certain opiates or painkillers and that's really what's behind these pharmaceutical companies funding these organizations is

. >> patrick kennedy with his deep political connections and famous name is pushing the feds to fastch. >> they ought to get at it quickly, the fda and federal government. they ought to just get it done. we just need a greater urgency to this issue, overall. >> it's a bold statement for a recovering addict whose been outspoken making medical marijuana legal in any way is dangerous, that more children will be able to access it and more smokers will become addicted to it. he thinks the only way to remove the risk is to have all medicinal marijuana products regulated, studied and strictly controlled. >> i think making this truly a medicine as opposed to forcing people to go on the street and try to buy something that they can't determine whether it is what it says it is. >> but he understands why extremely >> but he understands why extremely sick patients want marijuana now. remember, his father died of brain cancer and his brother lost his leg to cancer. >> i wouldn't have grudged my of my family with cancer and they've all had cancer anything that would have mitigated the chemotherapy

patrick kennedy had a very significant post on cbs news said he disagreed with this report. it is part of our business to understand what does he disagree with? what does he agree with? the very person who is implementing this office isn't totally familiar with it, isn't necessarily implementing it. there is a problem. there is a problem. >> it was a d s management report. it hit and touched on diplomatic security, better position to answer that question. >> they would be an agreed position to answer and next time we have this panel, if i had to do it over, i would put diplomatic security here as well. >> will the gentlelady continue to yield? just one question, mr. green, trying to get to the bottom line, security. when you did your survey, what exactly -- you talked to 100 people. can you tell us a little about that process so we can fully understand and appreciate what it was that you did and what you were telling these people and why you asked? that is significant. you went to people whose interests, whose interests would be to make sure they were secure. am i right? >>

the assertion is made that patrick kennedy made -- contradicted the secretary of state. and i don't believe that's true. i believe that's inaccurate and for the record i would ask you to go back and have mr. kennedy clarify but i'm quite confident knowing mr. kennedy he was not contradicting the secretary of state who said she accepted all recommendationss as you said and if there's any daylight, come back and clarify. but i didn't hear mr. kennedy say any such thing. >> i think -- >> i'm sorry. thank you. i also find it interesting that in hindsight we have perfect understanding of the security needs in benghazi and you should have understood that benghazi of all of the posts in the world was number one. shame on you for not understanding that. how many posts do we have in the state department around the world, ms. muniz? >> we have roughly 270. >> i'm sorry? >> we have roughly 270. >> you really don't like that microphone, did you? you need to -- >> we have roughly 270. >> perfect. 270. is that right? >> yes. >> so, we have lots of security challenges. and benghazi as y

. >> the real cutting edge of the war right now and if you ask sam patrick kennedy's group what they're working on, what their focus is, banks. period. they, that is their, they've got their heels dug into that, and they don't want to give on banks, because once they have -- we have banks, we have legitimacy. so that's really what a lot of their strategy is. and if you look at it, there's been many statements that have been made to that effect. >> so final question i'd like all the speakers to speak on this briefly, you know, if you look at the talking points of the opposition to marijuana reform, it's interesting to see how they shift over time. for a long time it was this is your brain on drugs, and marijuana makes you kill people back in the '30s, what have you. now the real talking point is this is big marijuana, right? it's just like big tobacco. they're trying to hike up the thc rates to get your kids addicted, and they're marketing this in gummy bears, and they're trying to destroy the fabric of hearn society. is my -- of american society. so my question for the panel is, you kno

former congressman patrick kennedy. and dr. carl hart. thank you gentlemen both. i appreciate it. that is "all in." "the rachel maddow show" starts now. good evening, rachel. >>> good evening, chris. thanks, my friend. we've got wendy davis, democratic candidate for texas governor, here tonight for the interview. i hope you will stick around for that. >>> but we start with this. second terms are tough for american presidents. in bill clinton's second term, he got impeached. in richard nixon's second term, he was about to get impeached and then he had to resign the presidency. ronald reagan's second term he had to come up with the "i don't remember anything" answer to make the iran contra scandal go away. although 14 members of his administration got indicted in that scandal including his defense secretary and two of his national security advisers. and in george w. bush's second term, it was clear very early on in that second term that that second term for him, like most other modern presidents, was also not going to be a walk in the park. and there was this great snapshot, this gr

the real cutting edge of the war right now -- if you ask sam patrick kennedy's group what they are workingon -- banks. . they have their heels dug into that. they don't want to give on banks. once we have banks, we have legitimacy. that is one of a lot of their strategy is. yhere have been man statements made to that effect. >> the final question i would like all the speakers to speak on -- if you look at the talking points of the opposition to marijuana reform, is interesting to see of a shift. for a long time, this is your brain on drugs. now the talking point is, this is big marijuana. just like big tobacco. they are trying to hike up the thc rates to get your kids addicted. they are marketing this incoming bears and trying to destroy the fabric of american society. is,uestion for the panel how do we as an industry avoid of a net calling this big marijuana? withith elliott -- start eliott. >> some of the legislation has driven it to be bigger money. i don't know about the big per se. as in the push for, vigils, normalization. we are people who choose cannabis over wine or maybe with win

. >> reporter: under secretary of state patrick kennedy disputed that finding in a recent interview withng." >> we have reviewed our processes and feel very, very comfortable that our use of the design initiative gets us the security we need and the functionality we need at the best possible price. >> reporter: he argues that over time buildings that are tailored to their environments will age better and require less maintenance, but it's really difficult to test that assertion at this point, gayle, because the first building using the design excellence approach is being built in mexico city right now and won't be completed until 2019. >> got it, nancy. thank you. >>> a month of excitement and heartbreak ends this weekend in brazil. sunday's world cup final features argentina taking on germany. organizers expect more than 2 billion people will watch this game. that includes more american fans than ever. we have a look at next step for soccer in this country. elaine, good morning. >> good morning. every four years the question comes up. is this the year that americans fully embrace soccer

. >> the real cutting edge of the war right now -- if you ask sam patrick kennedy's group what they areorking on banks. period. they have their heels dug into that. they don't want to give on banks. once we have banks, we have legitimacy. that is one of a lot of their strategy is. there have been many statements made to that effect. >> the final question i would like all the speakers to speak on -- if you look at the talking points of the opposition to marijuana reform, is interesting to see of a shift. for a long time, this is your brain on drugs. now the talking point is, this is big marijuana. just like big tobacco. they are trying to hike up the thc rates to get your kids addicted. they are marketing this incoming bears and trying to destroy the fabric of american society. my question for the panel is, how do we as an industry avoid this casting of a net calling this big marijuana? start with eliott. >> some of the legislation has we are people who choose cannabis over wine or maybe with wine. we are choosing something. it is adult choice, adult use. medical is one aspect of that. i

the assertion is being made that patrick kennedy contradicted the secretary of state, and i don't believe that's true. i believe that's ink accurate, and for the record, i would ask you to go back and have mr. kennedy clarify, but i'm quite confident, knowing mr. kennedy, he was not contradicting the secretary of state, who said she had accepted all recommendations, as you just said. if there's in daylight between those two points of views, by all means come back and clarify, but i didn't hear mr. kennedy say any such thing. i also find it interesting that in hindsight we have perfect understanding of the security needs in benghazi, and you should have understood that benghazi of all the posts in the world was number one. shank on you for not understanding that. how many post dos we have in the state department around the world? >> roughly 270. >> i'm sorry? >> roughly 270. >> you really don't like that microphone, do you? thank you. >> we have roughly 270. >> yes. >> so we have lots of security challenges, and benghazi was neither a consulate nor an embassy. that doesn't mean it's not im

you have patrick kennedy in off significant post go on cbs news and say he disagrees with this report. i think it's part of our business to understanding with what does hi disagree with and what does he agree where? if the very person that's implementing this office isn't totally familiar with it, isn't necessarily implementing it, there's a problem. there's a problem. >> again, i would like to restate. it was a ds management report. it hit and touched on ds diplomatic security would be better positioned to answer that question. >> i think they would be in a great position to answer it and i think next time we have this panel, we should include diplomatic security. if i had to do it over i would include diplomatic security here as well. >> would the gentle lady yield to me? >> yes. >> thanks. >> one question, mr. green. again, trying to get to the bottom line, security. when you did your surveying, what exactly -- exactly -- you said you talked to 100 people surveyed 100 people. can you tell us a little bit about that process? so we can fully understand and appreciate what it was that

my son patrick kennedy and his wife amy and their two little ones were also here but they've steppedut for a few minutes. they are very tiny. >> do they realize they are missing your testimony? >> yes, i think that food has won out. and my daughter caroline rackland is working in the philippines and ted kennedy jr. has a campaign in connecticut but they are here in spirit. >> i call those excused absences. >> i want to thank in a very personal way, my senator ed markey for such a gracious and warm introduction and my friend senator chris dodd for being here. it really means the world to me that they are here. and i have other dear friends in the audience. >> let the record show, i can barely see chris dodd's lips moving when senator markey was speaking. >> so the postal service is a vital public asset. as my friend michael bennett said it has near daily contact with every american household and business. there are more than 31,000 post offices, stations and branches across this country, many of which serve as a focal point of local identity. and a center of community interaction. wit

my son patrick kennedy and his wife amy and their two little ones were also here but they've stepped out for a few minutes. they are very tiny. >> do they realize they are missing your testimony? >> yes, i think that food has won out. and my daughter caroline rackland is working in the philippines and ted kennedy jr. has a campaign in connecticut but they are here in spirit. >> i call those excused absences. >> i want to thank in a very personal way, my senator ed markey for such a gracious and warm introduction and my friend senator chris dodd for being here. it really means the world to me that they are here. and i have other dear friends in the audience. >> let the record show, i can barely see chris dodd's lips moving when senator markey was speaking. >> so the postal service is a vital public asset. as my friend michael bennett said it has near daily contact with every american household and business. there are more than 31,000 post offices, stations and branches across this country, many of which serve as a focal point of local identity. and a center of community interaction. w

i was on a panel with commissioner hamberg and the former representative patrick kennedy that followed president clinton's speech. and he is really taking this issue on, which i thought was a positive. and he has a lot of energy, as you know. i'd say -- i start with prescription drugs because when i look at the facts on heroin, the fact that while the vast majority of prescription drug users do not start to use heroin, something like 97% of them, in fact, 4 out of 5 heroin users today started with prescription drugs. so i start with the demand issue with the prescription drugs and how we get to that. and i'd say, first of all, we have to do everything we can to reduce the supply. this means to me the drug takeback programs and getting them out of the hands of kids when it's the number two thing they're addicted to. senator cornyn and i passed a bill back in 2010. seems like quite a while ago, but still waiting on the rules that makes it easier and sets out some clear standards for how these drugs can be transported when they are put into takeback programs. we did that because there's c

the assertion is being made that patrick kennedy made -- contradicted the secretary of state, and i don't believe that's true. i believe that's inaccurate. and for the record, i would ask you to go back and have mr. kennedy clarify. but i'm quite confident, knowing mr. kennedy, he was not contradicting the secretary of state who said she had accepted all recommendations, as you just said. and if there's any daylight between those two points of view, by all means, come back and clarify. i didn't hear mr. kennedy say any such thing. sorry. thank you. i also find it interesting that in hindsight we have perfect understanding of the security needs in benghazi, and you should have understood that benghazi of all of the posts in the world was number one. shame on you for not understanding that. how many posts do we have in the state department around the world, ms. muniz? >> we have roughly 270. >> sorry? >> we have roughly 270. >> you really don't like that microphone. you need to -- >> we have roughly 270. >> perfect. 270, is that right? >> you can continue to watch this hearing online at c-s