and to explain the patrick leahy law is the patrick leahy law. it has to apply in every country where we give aid or turning our back on american ideals. let's start enforcing it everywhere. here we go. [applause] >> don't give me any excuse the we will make it the better if we give -- give aid to people using it to torture. that violates everything we stand for as americans. if you implement the patrick leahy law you need the sustained participation of a similar society here and around the world and everybody in this room. we should feel just as strongly about defending human rights activists whether they are in egypt for russia or sri lanka or china war vietnam or any other country who are persecuted for peaceful expression or association, or religious beliefs. these are rights that we americans take for granted, writes in which we take great pride. we should hesitate to speak up when those rights are violated anywhere. our country or anywhere else. i have met some activists as many of you have who have been subjected to brutality, isolation, t

senator patrick leahy from the great state of vermont. i consider him to be a good friend. and for all of you who are doubting it is possible for republicans and democrats to be friends in washington today. didn't say it was easy. i said it is possible. but it is a special honor to introduce the senator patrick leahy because he is a champion on of the cause that brings everyone here and that is human rights for everyone and everywhere. i think there is no greater champion for human rights in the united states congress than our friend patrick leahy. he is determined and indeed his historic work to advance human rig rights is too extensive to detail and give him time to talks as well. but i will talk about the 2-3 public plics accomplishments. i want to mention i have seen his work up close. the senate has to keep an eye on them and i can tell you as commissioner of the ins if you chose to ignore pat on an immigration issue you do it on your own. the senator does a lot of things that are below the radar screen that make a big difference in the lives of other people who would

patrick leahy for -- patrick leahy from the great state of vermont. it is my pleasure because i consider him to be a good friend and for all of you out there it is possible for republicans or democrats to be friends in washington today. it is not easy but it is possible but a special honor because he is a real honest to goodness champion of the causes human rights for everyone everywhere. without reservation there is no greater champion of human rights of the u.s. congress and our friend patrick leahy. he is determined with his heroic work to the advance human rights is too extensive in detail to give him a chance to talk but with two or three of his large accomplishments but before i do that i want to mention i had an opportunity on a personal level to see his work up close and as the senator knows he has to keep an eye on these guys so i can tell you as commissioner to the ims if you ignore him you do it at your own peril. he does a lot of things below the radar to make a big difference in the lives of a lot of people who would otherwise fall throug

we'll ask nsa chairman patrick leahy what he plans to do about the balance between privacy and security. >> the message is clear. the message to the nsa is now coming from every branch of governme government, from every corner of the nation. you've gone too far. >> dodgeball. hillary clinton has been ducking the 2016 question. now bill clinton's role. >> if you ran, what would they call your husband, first spouse? >> i have no idea. first mate. i don't know. >>> good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington. bad news on retail front. during this busiest shopping time of the year, retail giant said credit and debit of 40 million customers may have faced unauthorized access during a massive breach that started on black friday and went unnoticed. from that up to president obama to limit the powers of the nsa i'm joined by nbc justice correspondent pete williams and michael leiter, nbc news counter-terrorism export and former director of the national terrorism center. mike liter, y e liter, you know. how is this possible and implications. >> there is something in common with target and edward

senator patrick leahy from the great state of vermont. f a particular pleasure because i consider pat leahy to be a good friend. and yes, for all of you out there who are doubting thomas is, it is possible for republicans and democrats to be friends in washington today. i didn't see was easy. i said it was possible. but it is a special honor to introduce senator leahy because he is a real, honest-to-goodness champion of the cause. i think that brings all of us here today and that is human rights for everyone, everywhere. in fact, i think without reservation and i suspect a bomb in this agree, that there is no greater champion for human rights the u.s. congress then our friend, pat leahy. he is determined and indeed historic and heroic work to advance human rights is frankly too extensive for me to figure in detail and give him a chance to talk also. but i will talk a little bit about two or three of his large publicly aware competition and fear before he do that, i want to mention that i had an opportunity on the personal level to see his

. >> joining me now is democratic senator patrick leahy of vermont. thanks for making time for me. them you took yourself. describe for us the atmosphere in that meeting, what it was like for you, and also what it was like for mandela to visit congress, what that meant to our heritage here as we try to live up to the constitution that's been set by our forefathers. >> you know, i'm afraid that sometimes we become be blaze. that was not the case with mandela. no matter where they were from were moved by him being there. and i know when i talked with him, i was struck so much by something he said. i mentioned the fact that he'd been in prison for so long, i said why aren't you bitter. he said patrick, because i was in prison all those years, i was able to lead my country out of apartheid. he said i'm not bitter. i rejoice. i have never forgeten that moment. it's one of the most moving things i've ever heard from anybody in public or private life. >> as a politician and mandela is certainly remembered as a skillful politician, but as someone in your shoes, how does that enhance or how

senator patrick leahy says the report proves the nsa went too far. >> just because we can collect massive amounts of data doesn't mean we should do so. >> reporter: leahy proposed legislation to curb the agency's powers. security experts agree, certain checks and balances need to be restored. >> that is the deal we've struck here in the united states, that our intelligence communities have got to tell the congress what they're doing and the congress has got to provide a check. >> reporter: it's up to the president what recommendations to accept. >> even as we review our efforts and make some changes in how we do things, we will not harm our ability to face those threats. >> reporter: the white house says national security remains the top priority. the review also recommends curbing surveillance of foreign leaders. next month president obama is expected to discuss publicly how he plans to move forward. live in washington, i'm danielle lee. richard, back to you. >> thank you so much. >>> there's a resounding no to in-flight calls from two major airlines, delta and jetblue's announcement com

senator patrick leahy says the report proves the nsa went too far. >> just because we can collect massive amounts of data doesn't mean we should do so. >> reporter: he's proposed legislation that would curb the agency's powers. security experts agree certain checks and balances need to be restored. >> that is the deal we've struck here in the united states, that the intelligence communities have got to tell the congress what they're doing and the congress has to provide a check. >> reporter: it's up to the president what recommendations to accept. >> even as we review our efforts and make some changes in how we do things, we will not harm our ability to face those threats. >> reporter: the white house says national security remains the top priority. president obama is expected to announce his decision about these recommendations sometime next month. >> thanks so much. >>> turning now to phones on flights. a resounds no to in-flight calls from two major airlines, sdel take and jetblue eye announcements comes as the fcc he reviews its long time ban. both airlines say customers tell them in-

pleasure andcular honor for me today to introduce our keynote speaker, senator patrick leahy from the great state of vermont. a particular pleasure because i consider pat leahy to be a good friend, and yes, for all of you out there are who are doubting thomas's, it is possible for republicans and democrats to be friends in washington today. i did not say it was easy. i said it was possible. it is a special honor to introduce senator leahy because he is a real honest to goodness champion of the cause i think that brings all this are today, and that is human rights for everyone everywhere. in fact, i think without reservation and i suspect everybody in this room will agree, that there is no greater champion for human rights in the u.s. congress that our friend patrick leahy. , indeed, hisd historic and heroic work to advanced human rights is frankly too extensive for me to go into detail and give him a chance to talk also. i will talk a little bit about two or three of his large publicy -- accomplishments. i want to mention that i had the opportunity on a personal level assee his work u

where we're expecting remarks from vermont senator patrick leahy who chairs the judiciary committee. he'll be talking about human rights as of the 2013 human rights summit hosted by the group human rights first. >> to be friends in washington today. i didn't say was easy. i just said it's possible. but it is a special honor to introduce senator leahy because he is a real, honest-to-goodness, champ enough the cause i think that brings all of us here today. and that is human rights for everyone, everywhere. in fact, i think without reservation and i suspect everyone in this room will agree, that there is no greater champion for human rights in u.s. congress and our friend, pat leahy. he has determined and indeed historic and heroic work to advance human rights is frankly too expensive for me to sit here in detail and give him a chance to talk also. i will talk a little bit about two or three of his large publicly aware accomplishments. however before i do that, i want to mention that i had an opportunity at the personal level to see his work up close. i senator leahy does, those senate

hitch it took two nasa astronauts over five hours well let's discuss the mission now with dr patrick leahy's the founder of capital science connections patrick this is the first of three space walks it's taken over five hours it's been successful but just how serious is the damage. well it's a serious situation bill but it's not yet critical the equipment involved takes heat from all of the electronic equipment inside the space station and transfers it outside the space station radiating away to space there are two units that can do that and one of them has failed that means that the astronauts on board have had to shut down a lot of. operations there so the thing is functioning perfectly all right but of course if the second unit were to fail that would mean that they were into a really critical situation where they couldn't call the space station properly and they would likely have to abandon it so it's a serious situation but it's not yet critical what about the mission that they've carried out so far is it dangerous to carry out a mission that seems to take really quite a long time doesn

. >> reporter: senator patrick leahy, the chairman of the senate judiciary committee, told me the administration overstated the program's successes. >> well, i believe the nsa and general alexander and those speaking for him greatly exaggerated. we went from 54 which became sort of the symbol until we got down to the substance which was really one. >> reporter: now, u.s. officials have specifically cite add small number of other terror plots averted, including one involving a yemeni extremist who plotted to bomb the new york stock exchange and other members of the senate standing behind this program even after the court ruling, including senator diane feinstein, the chairman of the senate intelligence committee. she released a statement saying "that she believes it is constitutional and helps keep the country safe from attack." jim sciutto, cnn, washington. >> jim, thank you. >>> next on "icymi" the trail-blazing journalist barbara walters. here's a question. what is her biggest regret? she shares that answer in an unusually personal and powerful interview with piers morgan. that's next. ♪ [ eng

and also at 1:15 eastern senate judiciary committee chair patrick leahy of vermont will talk about the obama administration policies on human rights as well as future congressional action. while we wait for the start of the house hearing on the federal energy regulatory commission's role and authority, show you a portion of the defense department briefing from yesterday with remarks from defense secretary chuck hagel and joint chiefs chair general martin dempsey on pentagon spending cuts. >> all these decisions will not only result in a smaller and flatter osd but one that i believe will be better prepared for serious and complex 21st century security challenges that we face as a department and as a nation. and is constrained budget environment, we will continue to look for ways to reduce overhead, improve efficiency and maximize combat power. but we must do so in a deliberate manner after careful consideration of how best to ensure this department is able to carry out its mission of defending the nation. most of the reduction in osd staff that i've announce today will occur through pr

include the very authors of the patriot act james sensenbrenner republican from wisconsin and patrick leahy senator from vermont on the other side of the chamber and they've teamed up to propose a very very significant restrictions on n.s.a. spying i do hope that the usa freedom act passes and given the dysfunction visible across congress that's really an alien tech companies joining in the mix earlier this week change the calculation on capitol hill and makes this legislation more likely yourself or you mock price i certainly hope so but in the companies have been there are other. barry allied on privacy concerns and you have not been able to secure congressional reforms even around more meagre proposals of the electronic communications privacy act for instance has been an object of attention of the tech companies for over a year now this is a bill that hasn't been there a lot of it hasn't it updated in thirty years getting not the n.s.a. but local police and the f.b.i. and every other law enforcement agency the right stored communications like your g. mail account without a warrant and th

host: two of the authors have .eamed up patrick leahy has legislation to deal with this. do you support their bill? guest: i do think we have gone too far. it wasn't in the congress when the patriot act was signed into law. we are dealing with a new threat in america that struck our shores in a painful way. we do have to strike the appropriate balance. indicated, there is the need to roll back some of the activity we have authorized. host: patrick leahy talked about his legislation he has drafted with the former chairman. you can go to our website if you're interested, www.c- span.org. kim, democratic caller. hi, kim. caller: i am bringing it back to the budget deadline approaching and a compromise we are looking for in all of our representatives. i would like to remind republicans that democrats system andngle-payer we did compromise and we did open up the private insurance companies having the exchanges to sell their policies. when they ask us to compromise and we do, they seem to forget. i would like to, that your an extremely well spoken person and i think you have a

signed: patrick j. leahy, president pro tempore. mr. reid: mr. president? the presiding officer: the majority leader. mr. reid: i move to proceed to calendar number 243. the presiding officer: the clerk will report. the clerk: motion to proceed to the consideration of calendar number 243, s. 1356, a bill to amend the workforce investment act of 1998, and so forth and for other purposes. mr. reid: mr. president, following my remarks and those of the republican leader, the senate will be in morning business until 4:00 this afternoon. at 4:00 the senate will resume consideration of the national defense authorization act. at 5:00 p.m. the senate will proceed to executive session to consider the nomination of patricia millett to be united states circuit judge for the d.c. circuit postcloture. at 5:30 the senate will vote on confirmation of the millett nomination. mr. president, i think there are four bills, and the clerk can help both of us, at the desk due for second reading. the presiding officer: the clerk will read for the second time. the clerk: s. 1774, a

. >> well, patrick leahy agrees but what does president obama think? that's the most important opinion of all. we won't know about that until next month. the white house says, some of these recommendations will be adopted, others will be simply ignored and others will be put on the shelf until a later date. the leaders will be weighing in over the course of the next several weeks. the president won't be making his recommendations for changes until the first of the year. john. >> mike viqueria reporting. more of my conversation with glen greenwold. now that this advisory panel called the practices into question i asked him if he felt vindicated? >> the very first story that i wrote back in hong kong on june 5th was about this bulk collection program. when we reported that a federal secret fisa court had ordered verizon to turn over to the nsa all telephone calls of all americans that use verizon. and we later discovered that it was all telephone companies who were subject to similar orders. so to have a federal court less than six months later say that

. >> a proposal from democratic senator patrick leahy would end the bulk collection of phone records without a court order. but alexander told lawmakers that even if approved, the measure would not necessarily in new orleans collection depending on judicial interpretation. refusingn leaders are to meet with ukraine president theor yanukovych in aftermath of an intensified crackdown, demanding his resignation. dozens of people were winded on wednesday when rightly stormed a large protesting kamman. the officers eventually withdrew after demonstrators refused to leave and ultimately grew in size. in washington, white house and state department official said the u.s. is considering sanctions against ukraine. >> we were appalled last night by what happened in kiev. the response to peaceful protest over the last two weeks has been unacceptable and difficult understand why they've decided to move against their own people repeatedly with force rather than engage in real dialogue with the opposition. >> all policy options including sanctions, are on the table, in our view, but, obviously, th

you heard patrick leahy, democratic senator from vermont, his point the nsa's gone too far.n the republican side, i spoke with rand paul of kentucky, member of the homeland security committee, he goes one step further. he says not only did the nsa overreach but the head of national intelligence, james clapper, he should possibly even be criminally prosecuted for he says, lying to congress. listen to this. >> i do think what our government is doing is unconstitutional, and i really think that in order to restore confidence in our intelligence community, i think james clapper should resign. >> when i pressed him who did more damage to the u.s. national security, suzanne and michael, would it be james clapper or would it be edward snowden he says both of them did some damage, both of them broke the law. he was almost equating the two of them, which was pretty stunning, if you want to take a look back and see how many others have reacted in defense of this program. >> absolutely. wolf, thank you so much. appreciate it as always. >>> a british soldier hacked to death in the stree

we'll ask nsa chairman patrick leahy what he plans to do about the balance between privacy and securityear. the message to the nsa is now coming from every branch of governme government, from every corner of the nation. you've gone too far.

signed: patrick j. leahy, president pro tempore. mr. reid: i notice the absence of a quorum. the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll. quorum call: mr. reid: mr. president? the presiding officer: the majority leader. mr. reid: i ask unanimous consent the call of the quorum be terminated. the presiding officer: without objection, and under the previous order, the leadership time is reserved. mr. reid: mr. president, i ask the chair lay before the senate a message from the house with respect to h.j. res. 59. the presiding officer: the chair lays before the senate the following message. the clerk: resolved, that the house proceed from its amendment to the amendment of the senate for the resolution h.j. res. 59, entitled a joint resolution making continuing appropriations for fiscal year 2014, and for other purposes, and concur with the house amendment to a senate amendment. mr. reid: mr. president, i move to concur in the house amendment to the senate amendment h.j. res. 59. the presiding officer: the clerk will report the motion to concur. the clerk: the senator from

senator patrick leahy has been trying to kill the mccarron- ferguson act.has not and getting coverage for it. -- senatorin he patrick leahy is trying to make this a little more visible. care the fixes to health --healthcare.gov. inside the race to rescue a health site, and obama. slow to grasp insurance pote -- problems,portal's white house had to play catch- up. they shuffled into the oval office on the evening of october 15. president obama's chief domestic accomplishment was falling apart. the 630 million dollar insurance marketplace was a disaster after it went over 630 millionlion -- $630 online insurance marketplace was a disaster after we went live october 1. for 90 minutes, a frustrated president peppered his team with questions, drilling into the design asutia of web he struggled to understand the crisis that suddenly threatened his presidency. let's go to new hampshire. re on the republican line. caller: good morning. it is beyond my comprehension. the government had three years to set this program up. it is just a fiasco at this time. i have hear

i'm joined now by two out spoken voices on the issue, democratic senator patrick leahy of vermont andn congressman peter king of new york. he's on the homeland security committee. edward snowden writes this. six months ago i revealed that the nsa wanted to listen to the whole world. now the whole world is listening back and speaking out, too, and the nsa doesn't like what it's hearing. the culture of indiscriminate worldwide experience and the government is collapsing. is it collapsing? >> there is no agency that is mormon tornado and more watched than the nsa. it's managed by the courts and the justice partment. it's managed by the intelligence committees in the senate and the house. i think it's absolutely indispensable to our national security. the president said it's essential. >> that may be true, what you're saying in terms of oversight, but the american people had no idea what it was doing. you could think that was a good thing, but there was no real debate about this. >> i don't think everyone has to know what a spy agency is doing. by the nature of a spy agency, it's kept sec

he said to the presiding officer at that point, president pro tempore of the senate, senator patrick leahy, chairman of the judiciary committee, a man who's most experienced in all of these matters -- and it is what senator reid said. it makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck. i talked to a reporter, experienced, well-known reporter the other day, and he was talking about it. he said he -- he didn't ask for confidentiality. he'd probably use my name. but anyway, he said i didn't think he was going to do it.

senator patrick leahy tweeted this yesterday.uary 14 judiciary committee hearing with all five nsa review board members. forceve of obama's task will be appearing before the senate judiciary committee. mississippi, democratic caller. what is the name of your town? caller: mccall creek. i believe snowden showed the under the gun -- i believe snowden should be under the gun, they should kill him. he is a traitor. i do not believe in violence. that is something that i believe nobody should have ever done. giving all our secrets away. ain't freesia, he like he was here. he did something that nobody, nobody in this country should do. gelman tweeted this about his interview. coworkers, "what do you think the public would do?" beginning in october 2012, edward snowden said he brought his misgivings to two superiors in the nsa technology center and two more in the base in hawaii. snowden said he opened the data maps tool, which used heat to depict volume of data. his colleagues were astonished to learn we are collecting more on americans

he said to the presiding officer at that point, president pro tempore of the senate, senator patrick leahy, chairman of the judiciary committee, a man who's most experienced in all of these matters -- and it is what senator reid said. it makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck. i talked to a reporter, experienced, well-known reporter the other day, and he was talking about it. he said he -- he didn't ask for confidentiality. he'd probably use my name. but anyway, he said i didn't think he was going to do it. and when it started, everybody in the newsroom just stopped and we looked. why? because this was a big deal. this was a huge event in the history of the united states senate. and this is what senator reid said and everybody needs to know how it happened. he said i raise a point of order that the vote on the cloture under the rule 22 for all nominations other than for the supreme court of the united states is by majority vote. the vote on cloture, to shut off debate, he moved that under rule 22, he said under rule 22 that the vote on cloture, to shut off debate, for all nominatio

efforts are constitutional, there are efforts by the original authors of the patriot including patrick leahy from vermont. what you think their bill would do to this judges decision? >> -- guest: the first thing i would say is the nsa program is legal and constitutional. there is a challenge in court. i am willing to take a bet at the end of the day the program will stand. frustratedtration is because they fear they did everything right, with congressmen and everybody saying yes, this was ok. you can see why they are annoyed. that said, the patriot act, the homeland security act, the -- terrorismd prevention act, we passed a number of bills in the heat of the moment after 9/11 that deserve a second look. parts of the patriot act, they were around for a long time. i first saw some of the drafts in the 1990's. you have to keep the ability to keep up with technology because the technology changes and you do not change laws, you suffer in enforcement. host: is that what happened with 9/11, we fell behind on technology? guest: it is not what happened with 9/11, but it was an impetus to bring our

. >> reporter: today, senator patrick leahy, chairman of the senate judiciary committee, told me the administration has overstated the program's successes. >> i believe nsa greatly exaggerated. we went from 54 which became sort of the symbol, then we get down to the substance which was really one. >> reporter: the one case the senator referencing, that' zazi who in 2009 plotted to bomb the new york subway system. u.s. officials have specifically cited a small number of other plots averted including that involving a yemeni extremist who targeted the new york stock exchange and there are other members of the senate who stand behind the program even after the ruling, including senator dianne feinstein, the chairman of the senate intelligence committee. she released a statement saying that quote, she believes the program is constitutional and helps keep the country safe from attack. >> jim sciutto, i know mike rogers agrees with her. let's get some more right now on edward snowden. valerie plame is joining us, the former cia clandestine officer whose cover was famously blown by the bush

he was the chief of staff to patrick leahy, who is the longest serving not only democrat but senator, period. >> he's got a lot of experience. i'm sure he will help the president. stand by, brianna keilar, at the white house. let's dig a little deeper with our chief political analyst, gloria borger, our senior political analyst, david girgen and andy card, chief of staff for president george w. bush, now at the bush school of government at texas a & m university. david, let me start with you. it was a little more than 20 years ago, i remember i was the senior white house correspondent breaking the news that then-president bill clinton was calling you in, you had served three republican presidents as a counselor, he needed some help desperately at the time, this in the first year of his administration, the first term of his administration, and we spoke at the time. listen to this. >> what is going to be your number one priority? what were his marching orders to you when he asked you to become his counselor? >> i think two things. this president had the best run democratic campaign we h

threading the needle between his own party, those on the left, wyden and many of his own colleagues, patrick leahy from vermont, who want to eliminate this program, and some in his own party, including dianne feinstein, who says his program is absolutely essential. he is trying to find himself some wiggle room so he does not have to kill the program, but it some democratic buy in for it. some of these programs you could have made public without notifying terrorists about a way around them. you know what the atmosphere was in washington after 9-11. you probably could have gotten public buy in for this program. host: george w. bush began these programs after 9-11. we are going to continue to weave in excerpts from "confront and conceal." >> it was basically a half million dollars worth of work perhaps. of 9/110th anniversary two years ago, our executive wanted to try to figure out what america had spent in the response. obviously part of what we spent was the lives of 3000 americans killed that day and another 5000 americans killed in afghanistan and iraq after that. the cost that comes from rebuild

senate judiciary committee patrick leahy talked about the nsa wednesday on the senate floor.nator >>r. president, the white- house released a report that prepared by the president's review group on intelligence. te the message is very clear. from every corner of and a quarter pigs. nsa you have gone too far. the bulk collection of americans data by the u.s. government has -- review group came to the same conclusion i have about the utility of the section 215 phone records program. the same conclusion that justice leon found the other day calling it unconstitutional. they said section 215 was not essential to preventing attacks. many of us have been saying just because we can collect massive amounts of data doesn't mean we should do so. quote, altogether we might be safer if the government had a ready access to a massive storehouse of information about every detail of our live. the impact of such a program on the quality of life of the individual freedom would be too great. so we have legislation to curtail this, i think, for the sake of our nation and the sake of our constitution we

well, fortunately, senate committee chairman patrick leahy is working on a stand-alone bill to address these national security and fraud concerns. much in the way that director mayorkas and his team had asked for in june a year ago. i would urge all of my colleagues concerned about security issues in the program to join me as a cosponsor of that bill. it strikes me as grossly unfair, madam president, to punish director mayorkas for the inability of congress -- for the inability of congress -- to address the vulnerabilities in the eb-5 program that director mayorkas and his team brought to our attention and asked us to fix over a year and a half ago. in essence, those of us in congress, we failed to do our job, yet director mayorkas is taking the fall for our failure. how is that fair? how is that fair? i'll tell you, it's not. i mentioned previously that the o.i.g. completed an eb-5 audit and all that -- although that report has not been publicly released just yet, some of my colleagues have been discussing the o.i.g.'s findings earlier today n. light of that, i think this is a good ti

. >> patrick leahy spoke about the white house panel's report on the nsa surveillance programs. he invited members of the president's review group to testify before his committee on the recommendations. here are his remarks from the senate floor. >> mr. president, the white house released a report prepared by the presidents review group on intelligence. the message is very clear. the message that the nsa is not coming from every branch of government, every corner of our nation. nsa, you've gone too far. the bulk collection of american data by the u.s. government has to end. the review group came to the ofe conclusion that i have the section 215 records program, the same conclusion we found the other day calling it .nconstitutional section 215 was not essential to preventing attacks and could be obtained in a timely manner using conventional section 215 orders. just because we can collect massive amounts of data does not mean we should do so. be safer ifmight the government had ready access to a massive storage of information about every detail of our lives, the impact of such a

coming up at 1:15 eastern today here on c-span2, senate judiciary committee chair patrick leahy from vermont to talk about the obama administration's policy on human rights as was future congressional action. he will appear at the second annual human rights summit hosted by the group human rights first. >> friday on c-span "washington journal" looks at the mission and role of the national institutes of health. starting live at 730 am eastern. >> all with your calls and comments live on c-span. >> as you walk in the our tables out in front with lots of pamphlets, prior to entering the country. the pamphlets are how the government is trying to take away your right to own guns, the government is doing this and obama is doing that and obamacare's table. so those with the kind i wanted to talk to because those with guys with the leaflets, the ideas. so i said -- i said i'm an academic. i'm research and funding research on these organizations t,these ideas and trying to understand the guys. and i study men who believe this stuff. and a bunch of them looked at me suspiciously and said, so t

senator patrick leahy has called for limits on the intelligence gathering powers if we can get started because i know all the other things going on in the hill it's going to be busy today that i appreciate the general being here we are going to be reviewing the examination of the government surveillance being activities and the time we havef these, they're has been a series of new revelations and the latest raised a significant question about the scope and wisdom of the surveillancelosure activity both at home and abroad and so we have a lot more wiom oversight work to do. a in the last week there have been press reports that they arerk collecting millions of records h at salles locerations around th world and track individuals and map their relationship and they're also been reports that they are monitoring on-lineeir video games which in the press reports raises the question because we can do something as it really makes sense to do itqn especially as last month of thel administration released a seyt f documents revealing details about yet another dragnet cu collection program in add

if you're getting criticized by some more liberal senators like ron wyden and patrick leahy as well as conservatives and libertarians like ron paul you've got a real problem? >> correct. and look, the panel made 46 recommendations. i'm not suggesting that the president will adopt them all. white house already signaled they will not adopt one of them perhaps even more but on the big major issue of the metadata program of the in. sa, mass surveillance program of innocent americans, their phone calls, emails, et cetera, he will have to work with congress to come up with real new guidelines to restrict with the nsa is doing there. jon: the real headline as far as you see it the driver of the negative numbers of the polls in terms of trustworthiness that is all about obamacare you say? >> i think it is. from the moment that the health care site launched, and it came out about the promise and president trying to recoup that, that is, since we've seen his numbers slide and they continue to go down, to your point it is tough to turn it around once the trend starts sliding. jon: tom bevin is th

and in the afternoon, a senate judiciary committee, patrick leahy speak at the second annual conference. he'll talk about balancing national security and civil liberty. that starts at 1:15 eastern also on c-span2. >> the government is doing this and obamacare is terrible. and so those were the guys i wanted to talk to. they were quites with the leaflet. the ideas. so i said to them, you know, is your stuff? they said who are you? i said actually i'm a academic. i'm a researcher and doing research on these organizations. these ideas and trying to understand the guys about it. and i studied men who believe this stuff. and they, you know, a punch of them looked at me suspiciously and said asked me questions. and i just said, look, here is what i am. you know, i don't get. so but here is my job. i want to understand how you guys see the world. you will not convince me and i will not convince you. it's off the table. i want to understand why you think the way you do. "downward mobility: racial and gender-equality." on the fear, anxiety, and rage of angry white men. sunday night on 9:00 on "a

. >>> the senate judiciary committee chairman patrick leahy will deliver a speech on thursday on civil liberty, national security, and human rights. you can see the remarks live at 1:15 eastern on c-span2. >>> as you walk in, there are tables in front with a bunch of pamphlets. prior to entering the gun show. about how the government is trying to take away the guns and obama is doing this and obamacare is terrible. and so those are the guys i wanted to talk to. they were quites with the leaflet. the ideas. so i said to them, like, is this your stuff? and yeah, who are you? i'm academic. i'm a researcher and i'm doing a research on these organizations. these ideas trying to understand the guys. and i study men who believe this stuff. and they looked at me suspiciously and asked me question. and i said, look, here is what i am. i don't get it. so what here is my job. i want to understand how you see the world. i want to understand your world view. it is -- look, you will not convince me. ly not convince you. that's off the table. what is on the table i want to understand why you think th

efforts are constitutional, there are efforts by the original authors of the patriot including patrick leahym vermont. what you think their bill would do to this judges decision? >> -- guest: the first thing i would say is the nsa program is legal and constitutional. there is a challenge in court. i am willing to take a bet at the end of the day the program will stand. frustratedtration is because they fear they did everything right, with congressmen and everybody saying yes, this was ok. you can see why they are annoyed. that said, the patriot act, the homeland security act, the -- terrorismd prevention act, we passed a number of bills in the heat of the moment after 9/11 that deserve a second look. parts of the patriot act, they were around for a long time. i first saw some of the drafts in the 1990's. you have to keep the ability to keep up with technology because the technology changes and you do not change laws, you suffer in enforcement. host: is that what happened with 9/11, we fell behind on technology? guest: it is not what happened with 9/11, but it was an impetus to bring our tech

host: there've been proposals about the patrick leahy. he has teamed up with jim sensenbrenner, a republican from wisconsin. yes, i think they're disgust ofare of the the american people for that think anyone who voted to renew the patriot act is unpatriotic. and should be voted out of office. host: what do you think the president should say on it? his reached to make and talk about recommendations. what you want to hear from them? caller: i want to hear his total rejection of it. ofis not a democratic way governing people. constitutional scholar you should know this. i have been waiting for him, i'm the ones that disapprove on him because of this issue. i've been waiting for him to make a turnaround in stand up for democratic leaves. on a facebook page here are a couple of comments. here is president obama back in november accepting blame for the health care website. >> i understand why folks are frustrated. i would be, too. look at what is taking place in washington and they say not enough is getting done that helps me with my life. you

patrick leahy and peter king debated the issue sunday. >> i don't think everyone has to know what theng. by the nature, it's kept secret. >> of course we need it, but let's have it accountable to the american public. >> among other things, the new recommendations call for the n.s.a. to shut down a massive data bass including nearly every phone call made and received in the u.s. >> utah's same-sex marriage ban is back in court just three days after a federal judge ruled a ban unconstitutional. friday's decision made utah the 18th state to legalize same-sex marriage. >> a pipe bomb exploded on a bus in israel just moments after it was evacuated. a passenger spotted a suspicious bag. no one was hurt in the blast. israel police are blaming palestinian groups for the attack. >> suicide innate toe's second largest army has been on the rise. the turkish military blames soldiers taking their lives on family problems and drug addiction. as aljazeera reports, relatives of the dead say they've been victims of physical abuse and torture. >> all turkish men have to do military service. it's a caus