. >> in his apartment near the intersection, patrick murray has heard an explosion. >> i immediately came over to the balcony where i saw a lot of black smoke. i saw the vehicle on fire. my next instinct was to grab a camera and videotape it. >> at the same time, chris oxley is heading toward the intersection with his son in the car on the way to a baseball game. >> we saw a big fireball in front of us and then smoke rising from the fireball. we had a mushroom cloud on top of that probably went two to three stories up. the whole road was on fire. my son was terrified about it, because he was asking me dad, do we have to go towards this, this is scaring me. >> but he hears steve shouting for help. so chris stops the car and jumps out, telling his son to stay in the car. >> somebody's life, you know, was probably in danger. >> i thought it was going to blow up so i was trying to get him out and get him as far away from the car as we could. >> the inside of the car was starting now to catch on fire, and we had trouble pulling the person out of the car. >> as they struggled, other good s

joining me now is msnbc contributor and the first iraq war veteran to serve in congress, patrick murraytrick, you're a former prosecutor. take us through what you think the dimensions of this trial are. >> sure. well, first thing as you mentioned, lawrence, you're seeing this trial happen right now where you have 800 citizens from texas, in a county that is a rural county about 40,000 people. they're going to take these 800 and bring them to 12 with two alternating. that's going to be next week. so monday and tuesday, they're going to widdle those down to about 200 and have voir dire and ask these individuals, you know, can they give an independent judgment, do they have any preconceived notions. the attorneys on both sides will argue, the defense will certain hi think that their client is not going to have a fair trial, because some of them a lot of them will have seen that movie "american sniper" or read that book. >> and that won't necessarily be disqualifying. >> exactly. >> they will all be asked that but that won't in and of itself be disqualifying. they will be asked, can you put