father patrick sommer -- his parents are going with us. it will be lovely to get to know them. i am good friends with father patrick. there are a mix of people. most of them are from our parish. >> that sounds interesting. >> do you like they get a relationship they would not get otherwise? >> i would say so does with my own experience of being on multiple pilgrimages. i'm not sure if they know quite yet what they are getting themselves into. but when they are there and going from place to place, they are excited -- going there, i think they will receive many graces. >> you talked about our lady of fatima. mary seems to have so many aspects, powers and facets. what is it about our lady of fatima and her message that draws us? >> my mother, as i was growing up, was very devoted to fatima. but as children, we did not pay much attention. it was only until this year, 100th anniversary -- that i was doing a retreat on this topic. i had to do a lot of reading. i discovered that the message of fatima is the message of our time. 100 years ago -- perhaps even more relevant now than when