years later according to the newspaper, a grand jury wanted to indict jon benet's parents john and patsy ramsey. but the district attorney at the time didn't sign the indictment claiming there was not enough evidence. i spoke with hln's nancy grace about this. >> i think it's a huge big deal. i think it's a headline, a bombshell. the fact that the grand jury voted that jon benet's parents were liable for her death. they called that a second-degree child abuse that ended in death. i think it's incredible. and i find it just tormenting that the district attorney did not obey the grand jury. >> so lynn wood has represented the ramseys over the year as you know. he told us earlier this week that he thinks the grand jury didn't even have all the information they could have had. listen to this. listen to what he said. >> i think you had a grand jury that was likely confused and perhaps could've had some of that confusion cleared up if john and patsy ramsey had been allowed to testify before the grand jury. they offered repeatedly to do so, but they were never allowed the opportunity. >> no, i

i wanted to meet patsy. -- i want you to meet passage. -- patsy, director of the center. [applause] patsy, thanks to you and your team for giving our customers great service. in tennessee, we have a lot to brag about. this is the time to take advantage of our strengths and face are challenges head-on. i look forward to the executive and legislative branches continuing to work together on issues such matter to tennesseeans. we should begin tonight by addressing the elephant in the room, there are a lot of expectations and preconceived notions about how republican supermajority is going to govern. there is a narrative already been written for us. republicans will fight internally, and democrats will be focused solely on play politics instead of working across the aisle to find common ground for good government. i think that makes characters -- caricatures of us. we're not always going to agree on what the policy is. people in this room were elected for different reasons and oftentimes because of specific issues. i think we can agree that in the end, the focus should and wil

how about the nickname patsy? >> it was a nickname for martha in those days.obody was named patricia back then. it was a common name. washington was -- it was the car -- it was the farm has his brother lived in that was the farmhouse. i was mentioning he had been added a second story to. >> arlington, texas. >> hello. thank you for taking my call. i have a question regarding salary. i wonder if you could clarify that relationship, which continued until after the revolutionary war. was he aware of the relationship and how did he honestly deal with that or was that something that was not discussed? >> do you want to start? [laughter] >> here is a classic example where mrs. washington did her cause no good by burning those letters. in the late 1950's, two letters were discovered which james flexner made a great deal out of. some would say exaggerated their significance. sally was the wife of george william fairfax, who was a neighbor and close friend. some people describe him as washington's best friend. just downriver from mount vernon. i think, clearly, there w

. >> for years, police tried to link john and patsy ramsey to the death of their daughter, jonbenet.ury wanted to indict them. we'll ask our legal expert why that never happened. [heart beating] [heartbeat continues] [heartbeat, music playing louder] ♪ i'm feeling better since you know me... ♪ announcer: this song was created with heartbeats of children in need. find out how it can help frontline health workers bring hope to millions of children at everybeatmatters.org. >>> a murderer is back behind bars after he just walked of jail in chicago. steven robins was on the run for three days before he was captured last night. police found him about 60 miles away from the jail. robins was serving a 60-year murder sentence in an indiana prison when he was transferred to chicago to face a drug charge. well, the drug charge was dropped, and robins was supposed to return to indiana to serve the rest of his murder sentence. but instead he was simply just let go. >> i think you had a grand jury that was likely confused. and perhaps could have had some of that confusion cleared up if john and pa

. >> reporter: patsy quigley has been training women and writing books about self-defense since the 's after a close friend was raped. >> it was not easy for me to get a publisher for my book, because there were so many women who were against guns. >> reporter: she noticed big changes in women's attitudes toward guns. today the number of women buying them is on the rise. a gallup poll reported that in 2005, 13% of all women owned a gun. that number jumped to 23% in 2011. many, like stacy adams, say they are buying guns to protect themselves. >> there aren't many men i know who aren't bigger and stronger than i am. so even in the best scenario, i'm already at a loss. >> reporter: the number could spike even higher this year, triggered by shootings in aurora, colorado, and newtown, connecticut. >> the increase with women has really been apparent over the last i'd say four to eight weeks. >> reporter: it's a trend that worries those who believe more guns put more people in danger, especially women. >> the evidence is very strong that a gun in the home increases the risk for of course a g

because it's a british patsy and the tradition of it but london is the front capital the world and i this is commit fraud i mean regulated to totally compliant because people don't hold the regulators the feet to the fire and why not drop eight hundred million dollars of the fraud here let the poorest taxpayer dale that you know of because they've already proven themselves to be completely compliant and week week in this regard well that might be a very good policy decision on and i certainly wouldn't want to argue against that but the fact of the matter is that it always about this goes back to your original point if you allow your institutions to become pariahs and if you will country gets a reputation for being a pariah state because you allow least as you money to come in and you don't seek to prevent it is a moral dimension that eventually comes back and bites you up to the backside which says you have to take the rough with the smooth isn't downside for all is upside so if we aren't getting in the neck as a result of it we've only got ourselves to blame ok ron boswell davies ri

because it's a british patsy and the tradition of it but london is the front capital the world i mean this is the commit fraud i mean regulators are totally compliant because other people don't hold the regulators the feet to the fire so why not dump eight hundred million dollars of the fraud here let the poorest taxpayer deal that you know and because they've already proven themselves to be completely compliant and week we can this regard well that might be a very good policy does. you know i certainly wouldn't want to all get a good start but the fact of the matter is that it always goes back to your original point if you allow your institutions to become pariahs and if you will country gets a reputation for being a pariah state because you allow least owes you money to come here and you don't seek to prevent it this is a moral dimension that eventually comes back and bites you up the backside laid which says you have to take the rough with the smooth there's a downside for all its upside so if we aren't getting it in the next year as a result of it we've only got ourselves to blame

because it's a british patsy and the tradition of it but london is the front capital the world and i this is the i do commit fraud i did regulators to totally compliant because other people don't hold the regulators of feet to the fire so why not drop eight hundred million dollars of the fraud here let the poorest taxpayer dale that you know it because they've already proven themselves to be completely compliant and week we can this regard well that might be a very good policy does. you know i certainly wouldn't want to argue against that but the fact of the matter is that it always are but this goes back to your original point if you allow your institutions to become pariahs and if you will country gets a reputation for being a pariah state because you allow a least owes you money to come here and you don't seek to prevent it this is a moral dimension that eventually comes back and bites you up to the back some weight which says you have to take the rough with the smooth there's a downside for all is upside so if we aren't getting in the neck here as a result of it we've only got al

because it's a british patsy you know the tradition of it but london is the front capital the world and i this is commit fraud i mean regulated to totally compliant because other people don't hold the regulators have feet to the fire and why not dump eight hundred million dollars of the fraud here let the poorest taxpayer deal with it you know and because they've already proven themselves to be completely compliant and week week in this regard well that might be a very good policy does. you know i certainly wouldn't want to argue against that but the fact of the matter is that it always goes back to your original point if you allow your institutions to become pariahs and if you'll country gets a reputation for being a pariah state because you allow least as you money to come here and you don't seek to prevent it this is a moral dimension that eventually comes back and bites you up to the back so late which says you have to take the rough with the smooth there's a downside for all is upside so if we aren't getting in the neck here as a result of it we've only got ourselves to blame ok ro

because it's a british patsy and the tradition of it but london is the front capital the world and i this is commit fraud i mean regulated to totally compliant because people don't hold the regulators the feet to the fire and why not drop eight hundred million dollars of the fraud here let the poorest taxpayer deal that you know and because they've already proven themselves to be completely compliant and we can this regard well that might be a very good policy decision on and i certainly wouldn't want to argue against that but the fact of the matter is that it always about this goes back to your original point if you allow your institutions to become pariahs and if you will country gets a reputation for being a pariah state because you allow least if you money to come in and you don't seek to prevent it this is a moral dimension that eventually comes back and bites you up to the backside which says you have to take the rough with the smooth isn't downside for all is upside so if we aren't getting in the neck as a result of it we've only got ourselves to blame ok ron boswell davies ri

she was always called patsy. lady byrd johnson was never called claudia.so i was just wondering, but i heard that as you mentioned, in his letters, when he researched her in the letter that was just mentioned, that he did call her patsy. i also wanted to mention in this story that i am reading about more than george washington, that the house, mount vernon, it was originally the home of his half-brother, george washington's half-brother. he lived on a smaller fun and i wondered if you are going to say anything about his years as a surveyor, or is this really about the years with martha as an adult? >> host: this is actually a great question. we will be talking about the nickname patsy. >> guest: that was a nickname, just as peggy is a nickname for margaret. that nickname has fallen out of favor. but nobody was named patricia back then. so that was simply a common name >> host: the small farm that she was referencing. >> guest: it was smaller because it was only 500 acres at that point. washington was eber to acquire more acreage with martha's money. but th

gerri: top five super bowl advertisers, patsy, gm, you name them, you know them, anheuser, coca-cola,he walt disney company. i want to show a couple of these. we're going to watch it and then i will be degraded. >> here you go. last one. ♪ [laughter] this set. gerri: here is the great thing about the ad. for seven years they have amateur film makers make their ads. you know, on the internet consumers have picked which one airs. so the costs are minimal and they are using to of the three abcs. animals to my babies, and celebrity. the animal and the baby in one spot. gerri: knows celebrity. >> to of the three. gerri: i want you to see the apollo axe at. this one is good. ♪ gerri: what is going on in this category? it is crazy. >> here is the interesting thing. that is an ad that when you picture yourself that you're super bowl party, people will react to that positively, but by putting it out on the internet early, so many of these, you can go on the internet and see. but the one that really is going to last and the memorable is the one that they are keeping back that you have not seen

there was a question did patsy fake the ransom note and the like. but i think the prosecutors made the right decision. why it came out is somebody did something dishonest. that's a secret transcript, a secret proceeding. somebody leaked it. that's why it's out right now. shouldn't be out but it is. >> any idea, either of you, how often it is that prosecutors don't follow through on a grand jury indictment? >> we don't know those results, but i would venture to say it's probably less than 5%, miguel. that's just my guess. >> and avery -- >> probably right. >> any idea why this case is so fascinates people, just don't go away? >> oh, my goodness. the death of this beautiful child and all sorts of motives being ascribed by media and others. of course. this was the story that captured america at the time. certainly it will never go away. it was a horrendous crime which still will never -- unlikely ever be solved. >> our next case has s one a lot of people are talking about, jodi arias in phoenix, on trial for murdering her ex-boyfriend in june 2008. tra

patsy jefferson randolph who was thomas jefferson's daughter, emily donaldson who is andrew jackson'sgelica van buren was martin van buren's daughter-in-l daughter-in-law. harrit lane, and mary arthur mcelroy. who? chester arthur's sister. thanks to c-span, as always, for inspiring that question. their special series on first ladies, which i have already set my dvr to tape premieres in ten days. we will be right back. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> let's bring back the gaggle. susan, i want to start with you. look, i can't get enough of hillary clinton. i'll just admit it. hillary clinton favorable, 61. unfavorable, 34. how does that compare to joe biden? 46/41. she's more popular than anyone else on this list. that's not surprising. >> people have been talking about her