i'm a patsy if you're a patsy that means you a set up you were somehow involved jim garrison told me there was a guy hired to fly a plane into dallas to pick up someone who did fit the description of us won't fly him out of the country that man never showed up what does he mean by patsy well what he means like why does he mean by that oz walt was involved in our intelligence community and oz wald when he got picked up new i think he knew why he was getting picked up out of the corps ok let me say this to your. he's an interesting word is not just saying i'm innocent we're way if ya patsy exactly that means i'm being set up here right that's not a normal response from somebody i believe many listeners would be picked up by a car and he wasn't let's talk about the movie theater ok all they knew was that a guy went in that theater and didn't buy a ticket writers because no a guy across the street saw him sneak in the side and go in and he called the police now imagine you're the police dispatcher that's all they know the president was killed an hour ago officer tippit was killed roughly

tightened with a broken paintbrush from patsy's hobby kit. a ransom note found in the house contained little known details of the family's finances and history and state investigators said they thought it was in patsy's handwriting. there were no clear signs of forced entry and tensions between investigators and the family rose rapidly. john ramsey would later suggest that he was not surprise bid the police scrutiny. >> why did they think it was you? >> because the police always go after the parents. and we journal stood that. >> reporter: but prosecutors would not go after them even the the grand jury apparently wanted to. >> we do not have sufficient evidence to warrant the filing of charges. >> reporter: five years ago, authorities took unusual step of clearing john and patsy ramsey based on dna evidence. even though she had died of cancer and he had moved away. indeed. an awful lot of people connected to this case, whether they are witnesses or investigators or officials, have moved on. some have died. some have gone to other careers. eve

that is great stuff. >> just about every dish at patsy's.in new york head over to patsy cease, tiny but so good. >> two thumbs up. . coming up a body builder who's a champion of pumping iron. >> she is also a champion at lifting spirits. we'll be right back. the arteries of your dishwasher are constantly clogging up with grease and lime scale. use finish dishwasher cleaner every month to keep your machine in sparkling health. for shining results, finish dishwasher cleaner. prove it. enough is enough. d-con baits are specially formulated to kill in one feeding. guaranteed. d-con. get out. ♪ >>> finally this half hour, a story of true grit. the woman you are about to meet is a real champion. >> her secret is discipline, hard work, positive attitude that won't quit. ryan cummings of our phoenix station met her at the gym. >> reporter: working out is not easy. it can take years to become a top competitor and tons and tons and tons of lifting. >> every day is not leg day because i'm not an idiot. >> reporter: competitors train every part of their

the apology comes too late for patsy ramsey who died of ovarian cancer in 2006. she's buried in a cemetery near atlanta next to her daughter. randi kaye, cnn new york. >> such a bizarre case. joining me now live, cnn senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin and tom foreman. what does this mean? clearly, this will renew cloud of suspicion, right? >> i don't think so for one reason. that dna test that exonerated the ramseys came after '99 and before 2008. so the grand jury, when they made this decision to indict didn't have that information in front of them, so i think it's unfair for people to conclude that based on all the evidence, the grand jury thought there was at least probable case they were guilty of something. the grand jury did not have all the evidence that exists now. >> tom, you covered this case extensively based in colorado. the charges recommended, accessory to murder and child abuse resulting in death, that does mean, though, a majority of the jurors thought the ramseys were somehow involved in her murder. >> this is where i differ a bit with jeffrey o

jon and patsy, their 9-year-old son burke, and jonbenet.note was never cleared as far as patsy writing that. >> this is it. >> jon ramsey discovers the body. who who are they protecting? >> we are told the son burke was cleared by dna in the years after. dna was found around the underwear of jonbenet. >> dna can't testify and it lastses thousands, hundreds of years. weeks and days. you don't really know how the dna the gets to the victim or in the crime scene unless the it is completely, i guess, handled 100% properly. we see it in death row cases. dna needs supportive evidence. the supportive evidence of the dna goes in the exact opposite direction. the mother appears she wrote the ransom note. jon ramsey finds the body. the victim is strangled with a skull fracture the. they are inskipt with each other, strangulation is inconsistent. >> the grand jury had they ever doubts about the ramseys but the lawyer said this is grossly unfair that they have been cleared and this is a malignment of their names. thank you for being here. send me a twe

this is a scene between epps and patsy. >> i went to master's. >> you admit it. >> yes. freely.nd you know why? i got this from mrs. shaw. 56700 bales of cotton day in and day out, more than any man here and for tt i will be clean. that's all i ask. just this here wshat i went to shaw's for. >> she was just amazing. >> rose: what did she hav what is it about the patsy that you -- >> it was this grace. this grace. this grace. under the worst circumstances one could imagine, think of. you hatch it, you throw it on the floor but still it shines through. it was just marvelous, marvelous >> i was just thinking, you know we did rehearse that scene, it was the first time that we've -- did a scene together, the lieu pita and myself and she just came into the room and you could see -- >> she was amazing. >> i could see her past life coming into the room. i could see her in the car worrying about the scene, preparing herself. she'd obviously been sort of preparing all morning for it and she came to that rehearsal space ready to go and with brave choices and went for it and i just remember

what is it about the patsy that you -- >> it was this grace. this grace. this grace.nder the worst circumstances one could imagine, think of. you hatch it, you throw it on the floor but still it shines through. it was just marvelous, marvelous >> i was just thinking, you know we did rehearse that scene, it was the first time that we've -- did a scene together, the lieu pita and myself and she just came into the room and you could see -- >> she was amazing. >> i could see her past life coming into the room. i could see her in the car worryinabout the scene, preparing herself. she'd obviously been sort of preparing all morning for it and she came to that rehearsal space ready to go and with brave choices and went for it and i just remember kind of looking at you two and then it was like, question've got our work cut out. it's something beautiful about that -- something hungry and new. >> rose: is there an evolution in his character as -- while he's held? does he change? >> yeah. i mean, i think he starts off as a man who is in -- who believes that he's in a battle for h

the paint brush that was patsy's.bizarre bizarre note that was -- that included information. >> right. the amount of money asked for in the thing was the same as a bonus that john ramsey had gotten. >> right. it was written on a pad that was already in the house. so if it was an outsider, the outsider would have had to write the ransom note inside the house, which seems extremely unlikely. >> tom, do you think this case will ever be solved? >> no, i don't think it will. i think that it's just too far gone at this point. and you know, anderson, there's a paradox here that really is quite terrible. either some people lost their daughter and they had nothing to do with it, or they had something to do with it and they got away with it. either one of which is terrible terrible to contemplate when you think about a 6-year-old girl being killed in her own house on christmas night and the impact on everybody. >> fit was somebody outside the house, though, somebody else must know. i mean, there must be -- >> that's right. >> c

a ransom note that people thought was written in patsy ramsey's hand writing. the six-year-old found in the basement, duct tape over her mouth, a cord around her neck. but the district attorney refused to sign the grand jury's indictment. at the time he said the prosecutors did not have enough evidence to file charges against the ramseys. buts it's prosecutors who give all of the evidence to the grand jury. the defense has nothing to do with it. years later, different prosecutor cleared john and patsy ramsey of suspicion, and 17 years after the little girl's death, the death of jonbenet ramsey is unsolved. alicia has more. it doesn't seem like this changes anything. >> reporter: shep, this indictment does not. it's expired. and the only reason we're seeing these documents now is because charlie brown, reporter, sued to get them. in 1999, when the grand jury handed the d.a. then its indictment. alex hunter put it in a safe and that's where it stayed. here's hinter back then. >> under no circumstances will i or any of my advisers, prosecutors, the law enforcement

and what does it contain and what does it say about john and patsy ramsey. overmany discounts to thine customers! [old english accent] safe driver, multi-car, paid in full -- a most fulsome bounty indeed, lord jamie. thou cometh and we thy saveth! what are you doing? we doth offer so many discounts, we have some to spare. oh, you have any of those homeowners discounts? here we go. thank you. he took my shield, my lady. these are troubling times in the kingdom. more discounts than we knoweth at to do with. now that's progressive. >> two americans have been taken hostage. fox news confirms that the fbi is on the case. two americans taken hostage. the feds believe it is a ransom situation. that is common now. it went off the coast of any on nigerria. >>> one week after the temporary of the debt ceiling. america's debt is at $17 trillion. and 28 billion was added to the federal debt. that was an overnight jump from 16.75 to 17.8 trillion of the debt because of new spending and backlog of debt accumulating. get out your calculators. the u.s. added an average of 2

in 2006, patsy dies of ovarian cancer. two years later, jon ramsey is informed he and his late wife have been exonerated. that's after dna testing finds traces of a third person on the slain child's long johns. >> it was gratifying. it was a step forward. 18 years later, the secret grand jury bombshell, the panel felt the parents and a third person committed the crime that captivated the nation. why weren't they prosecuted? they explained he did not feel there was enough evidence to convince. he should have let a jury decide. >> i'm at total peace about the calls i have made. >> as i said, he should have let a jury decide. our next guest, craig silverman covering the jonbenet saga. craig, welcome to the program. first of all, a shoutout to charlie brennan and the team at the boulder newspaper. they forced the revelation of this unprosecuted indictment. have you ever heard of that? >> i have. there was a situation in federal court. it's rare. that was in denver, a strange case. most of the time, prosecutors don't ask a gran

that is great stuff. >> just about every dish at patsy's. if you are in new york head over patsy's.good. >> two thumbs up. >>> coming up, a body builder who's a champion of pumping iron. >> she is also a champion at lifting spirits. we'll be right back. s also a champion at lifting spirits. we'll be right back. with grease and lime scale. use finish dishwasher cleaner every month to keep your machine in sparkling health. for shining results, finish dishwasher cleaner. prove it. enough is enough. d-con baits are specially formulated to kill in one feeding. guaranteed. d-con. get out. ♪ >>> finally this half hour, a story of true grit. the woman you are about to meet is a real champion. >> her secret is discipline, hard work, positive attitude that won't quit. reporter ryan cummings of our phoenix station met her at the gym. >> reporter: working out is not easy. it can take years to become a top competitor and tons and tons and tons of lifting. >> every day is not leg day because i'm not an idiot. >> reporter: competitors train every part of their body from their core to their calves.

the grand jury indictment of john and patsy ramsey is providing new details into a 17-year-old murdertery that captivated the nation. count four of the indictment says patsy ramsey, quote, did unlawfully, knowingly, recklessly and feloniously permit a child to be unreasonably placed in a situation which posed a threat of injury to the child's life or health, which resulted in the death of jonbenet ramsey. count seven says john ramsey essentially the same thing, did unlawfully, knowingly, feloniously render assistance to a person with intent to hinder, delay and prevent the discovery, detention, apprehension, prosecution and conviction and punishment of such person for the commission of a crime. knowing the person being assisted has committed and was suspected of the crime of murder in the first degree and child abuse resulting in death. you'll remember that the 6-year-old beauty queen found dead in her boulder, colorado, home december 26th, 1996. her murder remains unsolved. let me bring in msnbc legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, kendall coffey. kendall, what do these docum

he was nothing more than a patsy king's wife coretta scott even stated that the jury confirmed what was already suspected by king's family she said it provided their family with a long sought sense of closure and peace which had been denied by official disintegration and coverups the verdict didn't come as a shock to m.l.k. surviving family who knew that he was subject to years of intimidation harassment and even death threats on behalf of the us government in fact he had once received a letter from the f.b.i. attempting to co worsen it taking his own life and just this year operation minaret was declassified confirming that he was in fact the victim of cointelpro mass surveillance at the height of his activism yet even now over a decade since that civil case questioning james earl ray's guilt as the lone man who killed m.l.k. is received is nothing more than a ludicrous conspiracy theory. so what's more newsworthy in the us the government being implicated for facilitating and covering up the assassination of the greatest civil rights leader that ever lived or the fact that john benet r

we just now got a look at these documents learning that the grand jury did indeed believe john and patsy ramsey had some responsibility in their daughter's death since then the d.n.a. analysis that's come out shows that there is blood on john john but panties from a third party that nobody's ever been able to identify wow we've got to fox to be speculating about a six year old canteens back to the story of jon benet ramsey the toddler beauty queen who was tragically found strangled to death in one thousand nine hundred six has been occupying the corporate media headlines since last week after a harrowing update on the case was made except there is no update in fact the only news that a grand jury implicated benet's parents and nineteen ninety nine but not for her murder only for the circumstances that allowed her murder to take place oh amazing that this breaking news story is simply that jon benet's mom and dad might not have been all star parents are you kidding me how is this new look i'm sorry for this tiny child and my heart goes out to her surviving family but seriously children ar

i know patsy ramsey passed away a couple years ago of cancer.nt these released, but if you're going to release any of them, release the entire file. why? >> i'm speaking now for john ramsey, which of course i'm not equipped to do, but i believe that john ramsey thinks that if the public saw what was put in front of the grand jury, it would work to his benefit in exonerating him and patsy. but he doesn't have a say over what the judge releases. so he did send a letter to the judge stating this, but i don't see that that's going to be released anytime soon. we do know what a grand jury thought. >> so where do we go from here? doesn't the bits and pieces released today lead to more questions? however many years later, this is still a mystery. >> get a glass of water because you're going to need one. it's a bitter pill to swallow. where do we go from here? nowhere, it's over. we're never going to know what happened to jonbenet ramsey. the case was bungled from the get-go, from the very beginning by the police there. we're never going to have an answ

grand jury that investigated the case and at that time recommended recommended indicting john and patsyt p tom foreman has been covering the story. >> reporter: the 6-year-old beauty contestant was found dead in her basement of her home the day after christmas 1996. it first thought was a kidnapping that turned fatal and her pararemits warned the community. >> there is a killer on the loose. i tell my friends to keep -- >> it's okay. >> keep your babies close to you. there's someone out there. >> but investigators were soon watching the ramseys themselves with suspicion. their daughter had been struck on the head and strangled with a piece of cord tightened with a broken paint brush from patsy's hobby kit. a ransom note contained little known details of the finances and history and some investigators privately said though thought it was in patsy's handwriting. there were no signs of forced entry and the tension rose rapidly. john ramsey would much later suggest he was not surprised by the police scrutiny. >> why did they think it was you? >> because the police always go after the parent

john and patsy ramsey.eading to the murder of their child. >> that's what the grand jury said? >> yet, the d.a. alex hunter. patsy ramsey is deceased. the father is still alive. >> she died in cancer in 2006. >> the d.a. got this grand jury indictment but refused to implement it because he said he didn't have enough evidence to win, are you buying it? i don't know what the mat matchinations. >> let me go back to the crime. child abuse leading to murder meaning there is a third person involved. besides john and patsy. they found d.n.a. that didn't match john and patsy, the parents. that's why they thought they would be exonerated. now this indictment makes clear that the grand jury knew there was a third person involved. that's the d.n.a. that's the stranger, some kind of conspiracy to torture and abuse this child. the parents were probably part of it, according to the grand jury. this thing has only just begun, the pressure on john ramsey the dad, there is no statute of limitations on murder. >> do you thin

there are four pages released, two on john and two on patsy, and the two charges that the grand juryith assisting in the murder or in some way impeding the investigation. now ultimately then d.a. here in boulder alex hunter decided that there wasn't enough evidence for him to move forward with the case and try john or patsy ramsey in this case at all. and the case was dropped. and then several years later, back in 200, then d.a., mary lacy, who had taken over ended up sending a letter to john ramsey following the death of patsy ramsey saying that new dna technology and testing proved that they did not commit the murder. and ultimately the person who committed the murder was male and unrelated to the immediate ramsey family. we have reached out to the current attorney representing john ramsey who did not want to comment specifically. but he referred to a letter he had sent to the current d.a. the latest information which included, again, that the dna had ultimately cleared his client. and that's all they want to say right now. we talked to the boulder police department, carol, also, a

that's quite a revelation. >> patsy ramsey died in 2006 from ovarian cancer. from the beginning they claimed an intruder killed their daughter, however, the document also alleged both parents intended to delay or prevent the arrest of the alleged killer. >>> today a santa clara county judge is set to release the man known as the pillow case rapist. christopher hubbard was convicted of raping 38 women in the 1970s and 1980s. they occurred throughout los angeles and bay area including at monroe middle school in san jose. he was being hild at calinga state hospital and expected to be released somewhere in l.a. county. he will be requiring to wear a gps monitoring device. >>> families of nine women trapped in a limo fire on the san mateo bridge filed several civil lawsuits. five women died in the fire in may including a new bride. the lawsuit claims six companies including ford and the owner of the limo are responsible for a vehicle malfunction that sparked the deadly fire. >> the cause of the fire was the driver shaft rotating on an undercarriage of the vehicle.

it's four pages, two for john, two for patsy.ge is child abuse resulting in death. the second charges them both with helping each other. it reads: john bennett ramsey did lawfully and feloniously render assistance to a person with spent to hinder, delay, prevent the discovery, apprehension, conviction, and punishment of such person for the commission of a crime. knowingly, the person being assisted has committed and was suspected of the crime of murder in the first degree and child abuse resulting in death. it reads the same for mrs. ramsey. the grand jury was in secrecy for 18 months before happening down an indictment. when the grand jurors were done, alex hunter announced no charges would be filed against the parents, but boulder daily camera reporter charlie brennan discovered later that hunter had put that signed indictment in a safe, and it remained a secret until brennan reported its existence in january of this year. >> the charges laid out in this indictment carried a statute of limitations running three years and that w

. >> fred, the newly released documents show that a grand jury in 1999 voted to indict john and patsy ramsey in the death of their 6-year-old daughter. that didn't happen and dna evidence exonerated the family. but the new information raises even more questions about what really happened the night jonbenet died. it's a murder mystery that remains unsolved after 17 years, who killed jonbenet ramsey. apparently a jury in 1999 believed her parents had something to do with the 6-year-old's death. a colorado judge just released previously sealed documents, four pages from a 1999 grand jury indictment. the documents show the grand jury voted to indict john and patsy ramsey on two counts, being an accessory to the murder. yet charges were never filed. at the time, the district attorney said there wasn't enough evidence. >> although the grand jury concluded there's probable cause, that is not anywhere close to the same standard as beyond a reasonable doubt. >> all along, the ramseys claimed an intruder killed their daughter. >> we think it was a pedophile, a male. >> the ramsey family was eve

patsy ramsey died of ovarian cancer in 2006, two years before the dna evidence would clear the family. and tonight, john ramsey is remarried, living in michigan. jonbenet's killer is still unknown. and an issue that has everyone arguing tonight. what should happen if parents let their kids drink at parties? one town is threatening to send a mom and dad to jail. and legendary singer james taylor, the star spangled flub making headlines tonight in our friday instant index. back in two minutes. the #1 selling pain reliever, in one cold medicine. advil congestion relief. it delivers a one-two punch at pain and sinus pressure with the power of advil and a nasal decongestant in a single pill. advil congestion relief. >>> and next, there is a lot of talk tonight about a problematic issue inside every american family, it is about teens and drinking. what is the right thing to do, when teenagers are drinking under your roof? abc's linzie janis takes us to a town, where police are cracking down on teens and their parents. >> reporter: when the baltimore sun published this picture of maryland's

and patsy ramsey died before anybody could let her know that cloud of suspicion was gone. >>> thank you your insights. professors, both of them. >>> you can read the documents yourself. if you would like to, go to cnn.com. and as you read them, remember the 2006 dna cleared them. back right after this. could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. mmmhmmm...everybody knows that. well, did you know that old macdonald was a really bad speller? your word is...cow. cow. cow. c...o...w... ...e...i...e...i...o. [buzzer] dangnabbit. geico. fifteen minutes could save you...well, you know. >>> just a day after a testing blame game over the debacle of obama care's website, more democratic lawmakers, i cedric, it was not a typo, democratic lawmakers are demanding an extension of the enrollment dates beyond the march 31st date that's set in stone. all of this as calls are going on for sath lean sebelius to resign over the problems. this hour secretary sebelius is pushing back against those called in enemy territory. the home state of texas republican senator ted cruz. that's where she is

. >> reporter: the grand jury did not directly accuse john and patsy ramsey of murdering jonbenet. instead, the section of the indictment released today said the ramseys recklessly placed their daughter in a situation which posed a threat of injury to the child's life and assisted the person suspected of the crime of murder. but boulder county district attorney alex hunter would not sign it. >> we do not have sufficient evidence to warrant the filing of charms against anyone who has been investigated at this time. >> reporter: he never explained why, citing the secrecy of the grand jury examining the murder evidence. the six-year-old beauty queen was found strangleed in the basement of the family home the day after christmas in 1996. her parent blamed an intruder. am ramseys wanted the court to release all the evidence and testimony presented to the grand jury, not just the indictments. lin wood was their lawyer. >> if you're going to release some of this, release all of it. the family has nothing to hide. >> reporter: in twoi 8, prosecutors said advanced d.n.a. testing not availab

if you're patsy ramsey, we think you helped cover up for john ramsey, but it's unclear. >> the documentschange anything? >> not a thing. not a thing. in a way it's sort of unfair to the ramseys. you can see why they wanted this kept secret. here we see the grand jury wanted to indict them, but it's important to remember this grand jury did not have the dna evidence in front of it, the technology had not been per effected yet. that technology allowed the later district attorney in 2008 to clear them. so this grant that wanted to act didn't have all the evidence that is now available. now it's just as big a mystery as ever -- who did this if. >> that dna evidence insisted, whoever did the murder, they did an autopsy, they said she was sexually assaulted. whoever did the murder was not related, was not a blood relative, because the dna was so different. is that right? >> correct. that's right, though possibly sexually assaulted. that was never established with certainty. remember a few years ago there was that lunatic john mark karr who confessed to being involved. he just turned out to be

craig. >> we know that patsy ramsey died in 2006 from ovarian cancer. have we heard anything so far from john ramsey, any reaction? >> reporter: nothing new. we reached out to his attorneys, and the only statement we have from that side is one of the filings in this case, basically opposing the motion to release this document, basically saying that releasing this document now of an unprosecuted indictment only further tends to defame john and patricia ramsey, patricia ramsey died in 2006. john ramsey has written two books about them, both of them pro claiming their innocence in every form imaginable since the death of their daughter in 1996. >> mike taibbi live for us in boulder, colorado. mike, thank you. >>> big backlash for big brother this morning. the obama administration vowing to review its surveillance practices as european leaders demand talks. they found out we're spying on them and they're really, really mad. or are they? an adviser to president obama promised a thorough review. lisa monaco wrote this op-ed, an assistant to the president for

. >> and did the then direct attorney have enough of a case against john and patsy ramsey.this case remains unsolved and no one is brought to justice. >> i want to say something to the person or persons that committed the crime. soon there will be no one on the list but you. a tsunami advisory. that is near the region of the wrecked nuclear power plant. the quake classified as a magnitude 73. and people are warned to love the coast immediately x. waves could reach throw feet. there is no tsunami threat to hawaii at the moment. nwe'll keep track. and time to check in with gretchen. >> health and human secretary sebelius said those who are calling for her resign are people i don't work for. really? doesn't she work for all of us. and a high school teacher lets students booze it up at the house and then takes them to a strip club. we'll have the real talk on that and new developments in the disappearance of baby lisa. all in the real story. >> did you say the mantel panel. >> it is named the mantel panel. >> panel of men. >> i would love to have you on it. >> to be considered.

patsy died of cancer in 2006, two years before the dna evidence would clear the family.and tonight, john ramsey is remarried, living in michigan. john benet's killer is still unknown. and an issue that has everyone arguing tonight. what should happen if parents let their kids drink at parties? one town is threatening to send a mom and dad to jail. and legendary singer james taylor, the star spangled none making headlines tonight in our instant index. back in two minutes. [ male announcer ] you'll only find advil, the #1 selling pain reliever, in one cold medicine. advil congestion relief. it delivers a one-two punch at pain and sinus pressure with the power of advil and a nasal decongestant in a single pill. advil congestion relief. >>> and next, there is a lot of talk tonight about a problematic issue inside every american family, it is about teens and drinking. what is the right thing to do, when teenagers are drinking under your roof? abc's linzie janis takes us to a town, where police are cracking down on teens and their parents. >> reporter: when the baltimore sun p

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. >> reporter: the documents reveal a grand jury voted to indict john and patsy ramsey for child abuse, resulting in death. and being accessories to a crime. but in an unusual move, the d.a. back then decided not to prosecute. >> we do not have sufficient evidence to warrant the filing of charges against anyone who has been investigated at this time. >> reporter: jonbenet was found beaten and strangled the day after christmas 1996. >> jonbenet ramsey. >> reporter: beauty pageant videos of a grown-up-looking 6-year-old, helped create a nationwide obsession with the case. her parents under suspicion from the start, blamed an unknown intruder. >> did you kill your daughter? >> i did not kill my daughter. >> reporter: patsy ramsey died of cancer two years before a new district attorney said dna evidence cleared the family as suspects. >> the ramseys are innocent. 1999 information is interesting. but it is, at best, a historical footnote. it does not advance the finding of the killer of this child. >> reporter: this morning, boulder police insist this is still an open case. but it's gone co

the grand jury said they knew john and patsy ramsey were in the house that night, 1996.nt and tragic happened that resulted in the death of jonbenet ramsey and so they were to be indicted for that. the language was ambiguous. they said each did knowingly and recklessly let a child be placed in a situation where there was injury and death of jonbenet ramsey. i'm paraphrasing. each of them did knowingly assist another person unnamed in the indictment who was a suspect of the crime of first degree murder. that was it. no new information. the status of the investigation remains inactive but open. we're no closer to knowing what that 17 years ago. >> nbc's mike taibbi, thank you. so hard to believe that's been 17 years. thanks. >>> after the break, when it comes to restricting voting rights, nobody messes with texas, except maybe north carolina. we'll discuss the latest efforts to block the vote and republicans who say the darnedest things when the nation's ari berman joins us next on "now." this morning dare to turn up the volume and make it last all night. [ female announce