patricia: patsy or pat was a nickname for martha in those days just like meg.o one was named patricia back then. only patsy's where mark -- were martha's. host: and the smaller farm that she mentioned? patricia: it was smaller because it was only 500 acres at that point. washington was able to acquire more acreage with martha's money, but it was the farm house that his brother lived in was the four-room farm house i was mentioning that he then added a second storey to. caller: i have a question regarding sally fairfax. i'm wondering if you can clarify that relationship george had with her, which apparently continued until after the revolutionary war. was she aware of that relationship and how did she honestly deal with that or was that something that just was not discussed? host: mr. smith, you want to start? patricia: you disagree. richard: here is a classic example of where, unfortunately, mrs. washington did her cause no good by burning all of those letters. in the late 1950s, two letters were discovered, which the then sort of reigning washington biographer

the only patsy before martha.hat was simply the common name. >> the smaller firm she was referencing? >> smaller because it was 500 acres at that point. he then added a second story. >> share is watching us in arlington, texas. caller: thank you for taking my call. i have a question. i'm wondering if you can clarify the relationship george had which apparently did not end until after the revolutionary war. what she aware of that relationship, and how did she honestly deal with that, or was that something that was just not discussed? >> mr. smith, want to start? [indiscernible] [laughter] >> you disagree. >> here is a classic example of where unfortunately, mrs. washington did her cause no good by burning all of those letters. in the late 1950's, two letters were discovered. the reigning washington biographer made a great deal out of, some would say, perhaps exaggerated their significance. sally fairfax was the wife of george william fairfax, who was a neighbor and close friend. some people describe him as washingt

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how was it playing patsy kline role. >> it was fun. it was quick.te songs and i was pregnant at that time too. >> right >> i was trying to suck it in and hide it. >> would you do a cover of any country album? >> i would love to my only hesitation is that people would not be able to differentiate between juliet barnes and myself. i want to dedicate myself to the role that i'm doing. and i have really -- i feel like -- zblsh maybe down the road. >> all right. that's not a no. happy to hear that. >> i got to find myself. to tell the story. the greatest thing about country music it has a through line of honesty honesty. >> speaking of which, thanks for being us a sneak peek of what's to come on "nashville." >> what possessed you guys to sign that little copy-cat? >> she's grown a lot from little hitmaker. >> really? >> he's building a solid fan base for her. we have high expectations for the first album. >> speaking of albums finish mine. baby's out back to work. juliet is such a trip. do you love playing her? >> i love it. i feel like i can get my angs

how was it playing patsy cline for that role within the show? >> it was fun.etting to sing crazy, that's one of my favorite songs, and i got to do it, and i was pregnant at that time, too. >> right. >> and i was trying to suck it in and hide it. >> would you do a cover of any country album? >> i would love to, but my only hesitation is that people would not be able to differentiate between juliet barnes and myself. and i feel like i want to dedicate myself to the role that i'm doing. and i have really -- i feel like -- >> maybe down the road. >> maybe down the road. >> all right. that's not a no. happy to hear that. >> i got to find myself to tell the story. the greatest thing about country music it has a through line of honesty. it's telling a story no matter what you're doing even if you're telling a store about partying. >> speaking of which, thanks for bringing us a sneak peek of what's to come on "nashville." take a look. >> what possessed you guys to sign that little copy-cat? >> i mean, she's grown a lot since "american hit-maker." >> really? >> he's bu

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this guy was a patsy. it was his older brother. he's the one that made him do it.y thing they may have going for him is sympathy. why put your client on the stand. >> right. >> and possibly remove that one element you have going for you. >> you never know what he's going to say. >> exactly, poppy. he might say, you know what? put me to death. he was talking about the jealousy he has of his brother for actually being dead and as a result of that realizing that ultimate dream. >> i do want to talk about a fascinating, important woman judy clark, the defense attorney someone who has defended zacarias mousse sowy and defended unabomber ted kaczynski. what do we know about her? >> she's a very accomplished defense attorney and a defender. if anyone puts to rest the myth that somehow public defenders are less effective, let me disabuse you of the notion and let judy clark do it too. she's one of the leading capital punishment defense attorneys with the leading public defender. she's outstanding and very respected and as you can see from her resume she's handled some of t

become so complicated ♪ her debut celebrates women who influence her: some famous like dolly parton and patsysetta tharpe and libby cotton, much less so. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ everything that was in my name everything i got is done... ♪ >> i've been really thinking about the woman in americana music, and the woman in american history, and just kind of thinking about all these really strong women, who kind of burst through, you know, broke down doors, and had to kind of overcome lots of hardship to even have a music career, and just how much i benefit from that. >> brown: the album also showcases giddens' range through gospel, blues, country and jazz. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ they asked of me what could i say >> to me all of those songs, blues, jazz, country, all of them actually do belong side by side, because they're all coming out of this common well of sort of the proto-american music, like this roots stuff, you know, so it was just kind of irresistible to be able to do them all together. >> brown: giddens studied opera at the oberlin conservatory in ohio. it was there she came back to earlier loves-- folk music first t

i'm thinking of people like wayne patsy matthews, william jordan. those folks whose names we have never heard before but had really interesting stories. >> guest: these were names in the record of fugitives, slaves who came to new york and gay wrote down their experiences. of course they have been lost to history up to this point. unlike harriet tubman who was pretty well-known of course. the thing that struck me the most in reading through this document is the incredible variety of ways in which people escaped, reasons for their escape and how they escaped. some escaped on foot which was the traditional idea. they went through the woods at night but actually most didn't escape that way. many escaped on boats. they were ship captains and willing to hide fugitives on their boats heading north for a fee. the slaves had to pay the money to do that. frederick douglass escaped by train in 1938. if he could get the free papers are free black person to get on a train and that was easier than doing it through the woods. some of them stole or appropriate --

so bloomberg did a story which they mentioned me as the patsy and by the way i compare this to the time the information i was given with the fbi which agreed in essence that this information was correct. they did a story with the media as the culprit because why? as they mentioned to "the new york times" reported that might show that the trail. >> host: do you consider yourself a political conservative? >> guest: if you're into feelings of the mainstream media but person is on either side and you wouldn't be interested in his or her political beliefs or think they were questionable. after 9/11 i was a centrist but after centrist but after 9/11 i became very concerned for our own safety and concern that democrats were undercutting some of these efforts that we need to keep us safe, and republicans on that hand were strong on the national national security. the reason that we have seen is the simple measure that has to protect us but the result was that i started to change my views but they do not affect my books as they mentioned they were nonpartisan and they could go down with dozens o

in this report, i was essentially a patsy for the cia. along with douglas jail, the new york times reported because the cia did interviews in which they claimed is intense interrogation program has led to actual lots, only three terrorists were water boarded. we have had more journalists water boarded than those individuals because journalists have been explaining how this thing works. thousands of military had been water boarded. the dictionary definition of torture is infliction of pain. it doesn't involve infection of pain it certainly involves caring people and is not anything we are looking forward to having but the senate report criticized the because what turns out to be the truth according to obama's directors that in fact these lead to plots including clues to uncovering where osama bin laden was leading to his death. interesting, there was a story which only mentioned me as the apache and i compared at the time with the fbi which agreed in essence this was correct. bloomberg did a story naming only me as the culprits, why? becau