he holds it all together so incredibly well under that pressure. >> rose: patti smith said but rebelluous as rochester, as loving as the hatter, as ill behaved as jack spar owe, does that fit? >> i'll take it. that's suites of her, that's very sweet of patti. i don't know, i think there was a director i worked with one time said come on now, it's time to get serious. and i remember looking at him and saying really? you're going turn a camera on and we're going to go out here and lie. i mean yeah, we'll do whatever, but i mean essentially what this is play, isn't it. it's play time, you know. and if we are stuck to some sort of rigid, you know, box, then you're to the going to get anything. the only way to get anything is to go out there and have a ball, you know. >> rose: i couldn't agree more. this is also this though, when music was your first love and then acting came and acting flourished, do you have some sense now that this is what you were here to do? >> i tell you, i've always had the sense that somewhere along the line a radical turn was made and i wasn't at the wheel, necessaril