more dramatic to me was the patty hearst kidnapping and the s.l.a. forcing the hearst family to contribute free food around the city. that was a pretty good deal. i don't know how to rank them because they're so different, each from the other. i wrote about all three of them. guess they're interesting enough to write about. >> dan white was very connected with ireland in a misty kind of coffee table book kind of way. >> yeah. the wanted to de -- he saw his irish heritage has having given him the gift of writing. he very much wanted to be a writer, and i read some of his stuff. it's very, very stiff, as dan was himself. after his -- he was released from parole and during the time when he was mostly living in san francisco, he actually went over to ireland to write, but he didn't write anything. he did take out irish citizenship, which he was entitled to. i believe it was his mother or grandmother -- one of them had been born in ireland and he was entitled to irish citizenship. he didn't write anything and he ran out of money and he asked marian, his wi