time to cool, and you don't have time to look at it too long, >> i'm working on another book on patty hearst. i'm just coming to the end of it, and now that i'm having fun, going around being in show business, and talking about this book, suddenly patty is sort of coming out of my fingers. >> do you find that's the difference between being a journalist and doing the "60 minutes?" the one is obviously more show business. >> i love being in show business. i finally made it. it took a long time, and i came from that background, but i always was hiding in the wings until. >> i didn't know, freddie came up to me today, we will talk about your dad in a moment, because that's kind of fascinating. i didn't know that he was such a well knowng we will talk about it in a moment. we will be right back. stay with us. [ music ] we are talking with shana alexander. your dad's name was ager, right? >> yes, it still is. >> well of course it is. >> he's older than george burns. >> really? >> yes, he's 83. he plays golf three days a week. >> and he's a songwriter. >> yes, he's a swell songwriter. "happy days a