. >> and senator patty murray tweeting a short while, with trump care rejected in the senate, she tweets, i'm glad to get to work on health care with senator alexander. we've tackled tough issues together before. what about senate leadership? we saw some video a moment ago of mitch mcconnell. what have we heard from mitch mcconnell and from senator schumer about this effort? >> mitch mcconnell has been mum on thissest. but senator john thune, he was definitely encouraging the president to continue allocated the csr payments under obamac e obamacare. senator schumer has been saying the same thing. after the failed vote in the early hours of friday morning, senator schumer was saying republicans and democrats needs to come together right now. this is what the democrats have wanted all along, a, the repeal and replace effort to fail and for b, the republicans to come away from that and come to the table and start negotiating with them. for democrats, as long as repeal and replace was on the table, they were not coming to the table. this was crucial to the democrats, making sure that the str

host: there is a bill from patty murray that would in effect pay for these csr's for a two-year basis? guest: when congress comes back in the fault but will start bipartisan health care hearings, which are a big deal because the health care debate under this administration has so far been very partisan. in the senate he did not have any hearings over the bill. when they come back in september, patty murray and the mark alexander, the republican on the health education and labor committee will start holding committees on the bill that would in theory sure of the markets and provide certainty. host: carl from montana, good morning. caller: good morning. george h.w. bush pass the law where a bunch of people get health care for free. there was 1300 voices throughout united states places throughout the united states. i was wondering when you tell me about that bill. i heard it from the doctor. unfortunately i don't know a lot about that bill. you have obviously got medicare and medicaid, the two biggest government provided forms of insurance. there is a lot of concern in congress over medi

lamar alexander and patty murray working on health care and i think we'll have a real bipartisanshipn tax reform, i think the thing facing congress. elizabeth: we'll have you back in the fall. >> to see if i'm right or wrong? >> let's hope you're right and we could see legislative wins, but i think you have interesting predictions. steve, thank you for clearing up some of those nuances for us, we appreciate it. >> you bet. elizabeth: leland. leland: a look at a program that allows county to tap into federal immigration data. everything with the immigration debate. not everybody is happy about it. plus, what the white house is saying about the special council's investigation and the latest leaks. (male announcer) are you ready to take the scenic route? then you belong at bass pro shops for huge savings. like this browning command ops 14 megapixel game camera for under $80. bass pro shops. your adventure starts here. >> indianapolis is remembering one of its finest this hour. hundreds turning out for the funeral of lieutenant aaron allen, who, as you remember, was shot 11 times by a cr

senators large audience mar alexander of tennessee, patty murray of wisconsin. she's the democrat, he's the rep than a. senate be held the week of september 4 to talk about ways congress can stabilize health insurance. other lawmakers are also calling to healthcare reform. if we fail on healthcare we're going to fail on taxes. joint hearings will be helpful. we came very close. let's continue to work on it and come up with a good balance. >> so healthcare is likely to go on the back burner for now, though, as lawmakers shift focus to other critical issues the debt ceiling and funding the government. it was the economy that was on the president's mind for what the administration was dubbed and did you know we have a theme week. it's a theme week , happy american dream week, everyone. we're eliminating the tremendous, the massive restrictions on american energy and a numbers are going to be re lease next week that are going to be earth shattering as to what we're doing with energy and the amounts of energy we're producing, far greater than ever before and pursuing

sides are calling for a solution with republican senator lamar alexander and democratic senator patty murray teaming up saying they want to see federal payments to insurers that help millions of low and moderate income americans afford coverage continue for at least another year. but president trump has threatened just the opposite tweeting if a new health care bill is not approved quickly, bailouts end very soon. and he's repeatedly said the only alternative to a repeal is to let obamacare fail. >> let obamacare explode. >> i said from the beginning, let obamacare implode and then do it. >> reporter: some senators now ignoring those threats from the president. >> but for now what we need is stability of the marketplace and those payments contribute to that so i would hope you would continue to make them. >> you don't hurt innocent people, mr. president, when you lose politically. that is not presidential. that is not, frankly, what an adult does. >> reporter: and they warn that without this stability and an effort to fix what's wrong with the current 2010 health care law consumers could fac

>> reporter: both sides are calling for a solution with republican senator lamar alexander and patty murrayming up saying they want to see federal payments to insurance that help millions of low and moderate americans afford coverage continue for at least another year. but president trump has threatened just the opposite tweeting if a new healthcare spill bill is not approved soon bail out will end very soon. >> let obamacare explode. it is exploding right now. i said from the beginning let obamacare implode. and then do it. >> reporter: some senators now ignoring those threats from the president. >> for now, what we need is stability in the marketplace and the those who can contribute to that. >> you don't hurt innocent people, mr. president when you lose politically. that is not presidential. that is not frankly what an adult does. >> reporter: and they warn that without this stability and an effort to fix what's wrong with the current 2010 healthcare law consumers could face sharp increases in their premiums and a shrinking number of insurance options. those increases could be severe. th

with republican senator lamar alexander and democratic senator patty murray teaming up. saying they want to see federal payments to insurers that help millions of low and moderate income americans afford coverage continue for at least another year. but president trump has threatened just the opposite. tweeting, if a new health care bill is not approved quickly, bailouts end very soon. some senators now ignoring those threats from the president. >> for now, what we need is stability in the marketplace and those payments contribute to that. so i would hope he would continue to make them. >> some senators warn without the stability and an effort to fix what's wrong with the 2010 health care law, consumers could face an increase in their premiums and a shrinking number of insurance carriers. maggie ruly, abc news, washington. >>> if you use cover california to buy health inshrps, you could pay more next year. insurance premiums are going up 12.5% in the new year. covered california provides coverage to about 1.5 million people. the majority of them receive subsidies that low

democrats, will give especially senator patty murray, a seat at the negotiating table for the first time, opening up a process that has until this point been tightly controlled by senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. look for c-span to cover those hearings in early september where we will be certain to be there for you. joe in arizona, florida. democratic caller. caller: thank you for taking my call. i want to say that you can google this name, greg pallas. he will show you how the trump administration are trying to get they took outy -- at 34 states, they are saying, no way. and whenump is corrupt he -- irump says -- hope he doesn't -- that russian thing, fox news says they are not there but they are there. paul: thanks for calling. tim is calling from beaver falls. good morning. caller: i want to talk about civics education. because i am hearing all the time on the news, even on your program, how bad it is. i'm living in beaver falls and had andkids, who wonderful education, the oldest one is only in the sixth grade, if anybody wants to wonder how much they are learning, they should

what paul ryan and patty murray is the regularly report back to their colleagues in a process that was from the get-go thoroughly bipartisan, which was not. molly and sarah polk said, bypassed the committee entirely, started with a group of 13 old white men, excluding all others. it may have had people coming in and out, for the bill was effectively put together by mcconnell and his staff, not using the expertise. mcconnell famously barred the as well as other stockholders, a man who had polio as a child, from being able to give any input. a kind off course crazy process on the floor. i've not seen anything quite like it, and maybe this will now turn it to come after the debacle, some semblance of a order and something that will be better, but when you have a majority intent on doing everything within its own already with narrow numbers and divisions within its own ranks, and even a senate that is now determined to look in a different direction, you have a harsh present at that has no desire or willingness to move in that direction. i think the twists and turns and the vocals and attem

we could turn to the thousand 11 budget compromise to try and get disaster where patty murray and paul ryan did much of the negotiation themselves behind closed doors. if you will at most of those processes, they were bipartisan and that included the conference committee were john breaux decided that even though daschle and another one of his colleagues would be left out, he would go to negotiate. the famousn he made comment that he cannot be bought, he would be rented. what patty murray and paul ryan did as the chairs of the respected by the committees was they regularly reported back to their colleagues a process that was thoroughly bipartisan. not, it was one as harry and molly both said that she could bypass the committee entirely. it started with a group of 13 old white men excluding all hadrs, it actually may have people coming out. the bill was put together by mcconnell and his staff, not using the expertise. mcconnell famously barred the march of dimes among other stockholders and health care process. i've got seen anything quite like this. some this will turn into semblance of

patty murray and paul chairs of the the respective budget committees was they regularly reported back to their colleagues in a process that was from the get-go thoroughly bipartisan. this was not. sarah one as molly and both said, by-passed the entirely,process started with a rump group of 13 old white men excluding all others. it actually may have had people coming in and out, but it down.ed the bill was effectively put together by mcconnell and his the expertise.g mcconnell famously barred the dimes among other stock holders in the healthcare process, a man who had had polio as a child from being able to input, and then, of course, a kind of crazy process floor. so i haven't seen anything quite willthis and maybe this now turn into after the debacle semblance of a regular order and something that will be a little bit better. have a majority intent on doing everything party, withwn narrow numbers and divisions within its own ranks, and even a toate that now is determined look in a different direction, you have a house of representatives that has no willingness to move in that directi

budget compromise to try and get past the disaster that both sides saw with sequesters, where patty murray and paul ryan did much of the negotiations themselves behind closed doors. but if you look at most of the processes, they were bipartisan and that included the conference committee where john breaux decided between though daschle and few of his colleagues were out, and he made the comment that i can't be bought, but i can be rented. and what patty murray and paul ryan did, both the chairs of the respective budget committees, they regularly reported back to their colleagues in a process that was from the get-go thoroughly bipartisan. this was not. it was one, as molly and sara both said, bypassed the committee process entirely, started with a group of 13 old white men, excluding all others. it actually may have had people coming in and out, but it narrowed down. the bill was effectively put together by mcconnell and his staff not using the expertise. mcconnell famously barred the march of dimes, among other stock holders in the health care process, a man who'd had polio as a child, fro

what patty murray and paul ryan did both the chairs of the prospective budget committee was they regularly reported back to their colleagues in a process that was from the get-go thoroughly bipartisan. this was not, it was one that was, as molly and sarah both said, bypassed the committee process entirely, starting with a rump group of 13 old white men, excluding all others. it may have had people coming in and out but in narrow down; the bill was put together by mcconnell in his staff not using the expertise; mcconnell famously barred the march of dimes among other stockholders in the healthcare process, a man who had had polio as a child, from being able to give any input. then, of course, a crazy process on the floor. i haven't seen anything quite like this. maybe this will now turn into after the debacle some semblance of a regular order and something that will be a little better. at when you have a majority intent on doing everything within his own party, with narrow numbersll in divisions within its own ranks, and even the senate that is now determined to look in a different directio

the health care effort getting underway in the senate, republican lamar alexander and democrat patty murrayve announced plans to work together to try to stabilize health-care market. it comes after the dramatic collapse of the gop repeal efforts with the president threatening to cut off critical payments to health insurance companies and helps of forcing democrats to make concessions. lawmakers from both parties say the affordable care act does need some improvement. larry: cleanup in frederick, maryland after a powerful microburst after last night storms is the most hour winds twisting metal and snapping trees and smashing light poles, one frederick business owner says the sky went from blue to black and minute. crews clearing the toppled trees from roads and repairing profit white but many home and business owners busy cleaning up the debris. autria: unarmed robbery caught on tape, this chinese restaurant worker in montgomery county far back. this is new burdens worker and pointed a gun at a female worker to struggle with him and police say he hit her with a gun and used pepper spray on h

patty murray talking about working with him. where do we go with that?ead to real solutions you can get 50 people to vote on? >> i told you a long time ago what would end up happening is in the dead of night congress was going to at the 11th hour pass a patch for obamacare for next year. remember, 80% of the people in america their insurance is fine. not a problem. they get it through the government or their employer. that's not an issue. the issue is for the 20% of the people in the insurance market facing these problems. industry estimates are between 6, 8, 9 billion needed to put through to prop it up so insurers stay in the game. that money will come through, i bet, in an 11th hour bipartisan votes. conservatives and liberals will stay out. democrats and republicans in the middle will pass it and everybody will say i don't remember that vote. it was very late. i can't recall and there will be a gavel and everybody will run away. >> shannon: the people will be impacted will get the bail-out and it will be a done deal and we'll be back to more cliffs.

the good news is lamar alexander, republican of tennessee, patty murray, democrat of washington will start hearings as soon as we return in couple weeks what to do with the health care system to strengthen it to move it forward. incidentally, that is where we should have started seven months ago. >> thank you very much. shifting gears a little, this is a question from steve who bills himself as transportation consultant. he has a very good one, by the way. senator, is there hope for broad partisanship in the senate? what does that mean for an infrastructure initiative? >> steve, there is -- everybody cheers a trillion dollar infrastructure program. it is easy to explain. you look at china, what they're doing, other countries, and what we need in this state and country, you know it better than most. the problem is how do you fund it? how do you fund it? we haven't touched the federal gas tax in 15, 18 years? it a gas tax imposed by the gallon. as we drive more fuel-efficient cars and trucks, burn fewer gallons, less money comes into the highway trust fund but we still have potholes an

often see patty murray are going to start hearings as soon as we return in couple of weeks what to do to strengthen the system and move it forward. incidentally that's where we should have started 7 months ago. is question his consultantsportation and he has a good one. is there hope for broad partisan ship and what's that for infrastructure initiative. it's easy to explain. other china and countries and what we need in this state and country and the you fund it?w do how do you fund it? e haven't touched the federal gas tax in 15-18 years. t's a gas tax imposeed by gallon and as we drive and burn money comes less in the highway fund and we still have pothole so the funding mechanism is easier on my side the other but an that's crucial. let me just add one footnote. moving toward more and more electric vehicles. e'll see more of that done and as a consequence fewer gallons burned.are likely to be how will we fund the infrastructure of this country. calculation.new maybe its by the mile. use hing that reflects the of the highway and reinvest back into it. not the thing that will stop us

lamar alexander and patty murray, they say they're holding hearings in the senate health committee next month and that stabilizing the obamacare markets. she's urging president not to stop sharing the cost sharing subsidies despite his threat to cut that funding. >> i have urged again that president trump temporarily continue the cost reduction payments through september so that congress can work on short term solution for stabilizing the individual markets in 2018. >> as the first tangible signs republicans are moving away from trump's demands to take another shot at repeal after efforts fell apart last week. at least two republicans are teaming up with democrats to fund cost sharing subsidies which allow insurers to cut costs for millions of americans. >>> approval to christopher ray as the next fbi director. he was confirmed by a 92-5 vote. when he was fired by president trump over the russia investigation. the vote was very bipartisan by today's standards but the five democrats who opposed are far and away the most to ever vote against an fbi director. only one senator has ever vote

in this case is lamar alexander or patty murray. i am convinced we have maybe not the leadership on the democratic side but you have people on both sides the aisle that are ready and ready to work across the aisle on this. >> charlie: it has to be by now, it seems, a repair of obama care. even the former president has acknowledged there were certain problems with obama care and certain principles that everybody seemed to believe pre-existing conditions and leaving kids on until they're 26 are things nobody wants to get rid of. >> and some are willing to in the interest of what they thought were higher economic principles. >> well, we've got to find ways to deal with this better. there are a lot of reforms needed both on the exchange side to make it affordable for average americans and on the medicaid side to make sure that's sustainable over time. right now we're growing those programs and spending more money than we can sustain long term. >> charlie: do they say they'll have another vote or health care or let it go for now? >> we g

the good news is lamar alexander, republican of tennessee, patty murray, democrat of washington will start hearings as soon as we return in couple weeks what to do with the health care system to strengthen it to move it forward. incidentally that is where we should have started seven months ago. [applause] >> thank you very much. shifting gears a little, this is a question from steve who bills himself as transportation consultant. he is a very good one, by the way. senator, is there hope for broad partisanship in the senate? what does that mean for an infrastructure initiative? >> steve, there is, everybody cheer as trillion dollar infrastructure program. it is easy to explain. you look at china, what they're doing, other countries, and what we need in this state and country, you know it better than most. the problem is how do you fund it? how do you fund it? we haven't touched the federal gas tax in 15, 18 years? it a gas tax imposed by the gallon. as we drive more fuel-efficient cars and trucks, burn fewer gallons, less money comes into the highway trust fund but we still have poth

>> it sounds like with lamar alexander, patty murray from washington, and if we get rid of the language, repeal, repeal, repeal which failed, failed, failed, let's fix what is there. seven seven millions of americans, let's not throw those people to the wind, let's fix what is there. this is what the democrats have been calling for to fix it, so let's fix it, if you talk about fixing it, that's what lamar alexander is talking about, you will get democrats on board. we can have a bipartisan approach. >> julie: saying that we would be dumber than dirt if we do not try again on health care. and ethan just mentioned, millions of american people dependent on the government making payments to insurance companies. forget tax or form, they need and cannot afford to not make this right. they have to live up to the promise that they made to the constituents, now being bombarded by thousand dollars plus payments to the health care per month, those rates will go up in january. i don't even get me started on midterms. do they want to lose control of house and the senate, they are headed that way. >>

rally says he'll take a look at the bill being worked on by republican amar alexander and democrat patty murray. the bill would in exchange give states more flexibility in choosing one insurance they offer. the senate will hold hearings on the idea of november. lawmakers have a lot of other issues on their hands upon returning. federal spending and tax reform are on the docket. here to talk about the first 200 days we talked about with speaker paul ryan. i want to ask you, there's a lot of talk about the gop. i've heard -- excuse me, praising soon-to-be speaker pelosi. i want to ask you, i feel like that is putting the cart before the horse. >> is a long way off. republicans are worried about trump and some of the swing districts. they are not looking at the trump districts. they are looking at the districts where hillary clinton won or trump won by seven points or five points or three points. in though, if the election were held tomorrow with the house and play, absolutely. a long time until november 2018. they have a lot of hurdles to get through. i think they would admit so far it a heavy li

patty murray of washington.ow health care fix to try to shore up the individual insurance markets. this, of course, after a bunch of big insurers have left key state exchanges, something that could look alone the lines of insuring subsidies that go to insurance companies. continue, provide more flexibility to states. that's something that republicans want. of course, we know how difficult health care is. if there is a possibility of getting something done, they're trying to do something in september. something to ensure there's some certainty before the enrollment period begins for these insurance companies and presumbpresum presumably roll it into something that can pass. >> hope springs eternal on that one. jay martin? >> it's worth emphasizing how powerful jack danforth's op-ed was. he looms large on political landscape, mentor for a lot of folks in the gop, including josh holley, the attorney general who may run against claire mccaskill next year. the fact that he has come out and called president trump a ha

the panel's top democrat patty murray says they will look at stuff to stabilize the insurance marketslapsing. that will be a bipartisan effor effort. meanwhile, a key republican is selling his proposal, a broader one giving governors more control of health care dollars. >> when you hear a republican say we've got to move on, we haven't taken our best shot at replacing obamacare. why don't you take the money we would spend on obamacare in washington and grant it back to the 50 states? >> i member of the g.o.p. leadership team was asked if he could get 50 senators to vote yes. >> if all 35 come to the senate and say they want the plan, that would be the best thing that could happen, even better if a few democrat members would join. >> there are also the issues of subsidies to help lower income americans afford their insurance with which president trump has threatened to stop paying. the senate democratic leaders were in cutting those payments would be devastating. >> insurers in three states, north carolina, pennsylvania, iowa, have each released separate rates for 2018. one, if the pay

senator lamar alexander of tennessee is working in a bipartisan way with patty murray of washington to strengthen and stabilize obamacare, not the repeal and replace, as the president has wanted. they are beginning to take actual policy actions that seem to be at odds with what the president has said he wants. >> not seem to be, alisyn, but are directly at odds. donald trump's solution in the wake of the failure health care vote, essentially, let's let this fail, let's let the obamacare collapse under its own weight and everyone will come begging to us for a solution and democrats will get blamed. he literally has said basically that. i think with lamar alexander, he's got a store read political career, ran for president twice. this is somebody who is fundamentally a problem solver, someone in public service for a very long time and someone who is not going to follow the president's lead and just let people in his state of tennessee or in any state watch as this thing totally collapses. i think the fear factor, to the extent it ever existed with donald trump is essentially gone that, y

that comes from lamar alexander and the panel's top democrat, patty murray from the state of washington. they look at actions that congress should take to stabilize and strengthen the markets so americans can buy insurance at affordable prices in 2018. we heard more about health care from the senate's top leadership a short time ago. >> it's obvious that our problem on healthcare was not the democrats. we didn't have 50 republicans. there's not the votes in the senate. >> that's the big fault line here. on healthcare, leader mcconnell is a master tactician. it's not his fault they couldn't get it done. they came up with a plan that was so far away from what the american people wanted it couldn't get done. >> so they either need a plan to get 50 republicans to support it or else going back to the table to get republicans and democrats to stabilize the markets, jon. >> jon: mike emanuel, thank you. let's bring in louise, white house reporter for the "wall street journal" in which we share ownership. she contributed to an article about president trump threatening to come off some funding f

repeal bill failed on the floor, senator alexander, republican of tennessee, went over to senator patty murraydemocrat of washington, and said, let's sit down and put our committee to work to write the bill that's needed. in the meantime, let's figure out how to stabilize the system. i tell you, this threat from the trump to bring down our health care system to win some political victory, he's doing it at the expense of a lot of innocent americans. we should work together on a bipartisan basis to make our system stronger and make sure the premiums don't go up dramatically. >> what do you think of the president's threat to undermine the health plans of members of congress? >> i can tell you he has a pretty good insurance plan for himself, doesn't he? what we want in congress is to make sure everybody in the country has the same health care plan we do. my wife and i buy our health insurance on the insurance exchanges created by obamacare. we go into the exchanges and buy just like every other american. that's the way it ought to be. >> oethe other thing the presidt is trying to address is the op

what the senate health education labor committee chaired by alexander, patty murray is a ranking member, what they're trying to do as you said, these cost saving reduction payments aren't necessarily to go to premiums about reducing out of pocket costs with respect to deductibles that type of stuff, there's a lot of insurers that are going to be encouraged to pull out of the market. that's the exact type of obamacare set up to fail type of thing. you would expect the trump administration to back. doesn't sound so good when it's affecting people who might be inclined to vote for trump in the election. >> you saw this crash and burn thing happen with health care legislation, but looking forward, you know, trump still has an agenda he wants to push forward. let's talk about taxes for one. if he's not playing nice in the sand box with senate republicans they're not going to put their neck out for the president and there's already some cracks in the surface showing. >> that's a huge issue, you think about all the initiatives that the administration wanted to take care of the first time that

lamar alexander and patty murray says they will look at steps to stabilize the insurance markets with they may be collapsing. that's a recognition but lawmakers on both sides. they must do something short term, shep. >> shepard: what is the republican narrative as they head to districts for the holiday? >> a member of the senate leadership team says they need to keep working at it. >> the biggest domestic spending issue is what happens in medicare and medicaid and now obamacare. we have to figure out how to make this work and sustainable where people have more access to healthcare rather than just more access to an insurance policy that doesn't let it go to healthcare because the deductibles are so high or their family can't afford it. >> another key senators say they expect republicans to get an earful from constituents this month. >> i want my republican leadership team to know and they will be open-minded to a new approach. we should have our heads handed to us. we have not replaced obamacare. we have not done all we could to replace obamacare. so i'm insistent that we take every s

answer that's going to allow democrats or the committee's ranking member patty murray to give some infotime in the process. the obamacare repeal and replace effort was a republican vehicle only. now, this is going to be a problem for the white house because president trump said he wants to led obamacare implode. and what senator alexander is talking about is preventing the president from doing that. doing things like withholding insurance subsidies. maybe messing around with subsidies for members of congress and their staff. there's conflict between the two sides. >> jordan fabian, thank you. >>> just a day after being pushed from the white house, anthony scaramucci affectionately known as the mooch is trying to have the last word. in an interview with the huffington post he defended his initial news conference in the press room saying the president thought i killed. but sources tell the huffington post that the president was amused by it but changed his attention when he saw the negative attention it garnered. scaramucci said he offered to resign, but the president said there was no ne

democrats, republicans, independents, think thank god somebody is now -- now he's working with patty murrayy to fix the problems with health care and move in a rational way. thank you, senator alexander. and other republicans. we're now seeing mayors, like the mayor of georgetown, texas, in the reddest city, the reddest county in texas, he said he could save his set zens in an oil county by going renewables. a side benefit we're saving the human civilization. >> i think there's a connection between climate denialism and trumpism. they say trump is the outlier of the conservative movement, and for many reasons he is, partly. but you have an entire party that rallied around the theory that there was a coordinated conspiracy driven by multiple scientists around the globe to deceive people about the basic science of this matter. if you can believe that, it's not surprising to me you would produce a president like this. do you feel like there's a connection there? >> oh, yeah, absolutely. i think that donald trump is the most extreme form of a trend that actually started earlier. you mentioned m

alexander of tennessee, the chairman of the health committee, and his democratic ranking member, patty murraylked to both of their staffs today. the efforts on both sides, judy, are narrowly tailored on stabilization. >> woodruff: if they were not to agree what would that mean for these insurance markets and for the cost of premiums? >> that's right, for all of us, and especially those on the individual market. we got some new data yesterday from the department of health and human services. let's look at states that might get hit the hardest by increasing premiums. this is what insurers are forecasting they would have to do-- increase premiums by 30% in these five states, judy. notice what they have in common, they were won by president trump. these are red states. that's the high end, but most states expect premium increases, for example, 12% in new york. it's something that say concern. >> woodruff: to get to, i guess, the politics of this, how much of these premium increases are due to the affordable care act, which is what republicans argue, and how much is due to the instability of the m

my sense on this, john just mentioned lamar alexander, what he wants to do, patty murray will help ondemocrat senator. tom carper from delaware has been unbelievable in terms of his looking trying to solve this problem. dick durbin and i, democrat leader and i have talked there's a lot of politics but i'm worried about people. i think there is a hunger in the congress, at least in the senate to try to do what they went to do, which is solve problems. you can't solve immense difficult problems without both side. we couldn't have balanced the budget in '97 had not clinton administration and republicans agreed to make some compromise. we never would have reformed the military like we g goldwater, a democrat to give power to commanders in the field. these are major deals, john. since republicans are in the majority they get to call the tune, that is i've said before when you call the tune democrats have to be included in the choir for a meaningful role. look, they know it's failing. they know this is not working down there. and if we can overcome some of the partisanship and lamar alexand

this has lamar alexander and patty murray, who run the health committee, they're trying to come up with a way to fund those cost-sharing reduction payments for the next year. that gives insurers some sense of stability in the individual markets. it's basically money that helps lower income people pay things like deductibles and co-pays. the ball is in president trump's court to pay them the next month. they're asking the president to pay them to august and try to make this a congressional priority going forward. that has a lot of senators happy that they're seeing this bipartisan talk. on the house side you've got a problem solvers caucus. more than 40 republicans and democrats combined working together for a much broader rewrite of the health care bill. they want to change the employer mandate, set up pools of money to help states innovate. they have got a much broader plan, but so far that one seems less likely to succeed in part because it's starting in the house. the speaker, paul ryan, has made it very clear he feels like the house has done its part on obamacare repeal. they want t

senators lamar alexander and patty murray say they will hold bipartisan hearings on health reform startingfirst week in september. alexander and murray are hoping to work fast. the contract for insurance providers come up at the end of the month and senators want to have a bipartisan proposal if in place before that. outside the capitol, the pressure from activists has continued. joining us is karine jeanpierre, senior adviser and national spokesperson for moveon.org. thank you for being here. >> hey, joy. >> we know that senators who voted no have gotten a lot of love for it. lisa murkowski is greeted by cheers as she goes around alaska. people cheering her. susan collins stepping off a plane in bangor, maine, and greeted with applause, rounds of applause in the airport for voting no. you see pictures for murkowski. there is susan collins getting love in the airport. is moveon and other organizations using that positive affirmation those senators got as a way to cajole other senators to vote that way next time if they try to repeal? >> i think so. the 20 million americans about to lose th

chairman lamar alexander and top democrat patty murray says they will look ways to stablize insurance with concern they're he collapsing. that is bipartisan effort. the selling broader proposal giving governors control more dollars. >> when you hear republicans say we have to move on? no. we haven't taken our best shot having replacing obamacare. i have an idea came from republican governors. take on money we spend on obamacare in washington, block grant it back to the 50 states? reporter: i asked missouri senator roy blunt a member of gop leadership team, if graham's plan might get 50 gop senators to yes. >> dependent on the governors? today there are 35 republican governors. if all 35 come to the senate to say we want the graham-cassidy plan that would be best thing for the graham-cassidy plan. even better if a few democrat governors join them. reporter: there is issue of subsidies to help low income americans pay for insurance which president trump threatened to stop paying. the president called them bailouts. he is pushing congress to get a health care reform bill to his debt. dem

the committee responsible by lamar alexander republican from tennessee and patty murray, democrat from washington state. they've announced herein on how to stabilize the health care system. this all could alter dramatically if president trump decides to eliminate the subsidy next month. i don't know how you put it back together if that is the case. i have no problems in speaking my mind, whether i agree or disagree with the president. we want the president to succeed i hope that happens in this administration and want to be supportive but they, but we will do our best to put it ahead of the conversation. i'll get to the front row in just a minute. >> jerry commented thank you for coming here. would you explain that the congressmen in your staff the health care benefit to congress and what you can fall back on >> the health care benefits and member of congress received, there might be a few exceptions. i don't know that there are, but this is the plan i'm under and this is what i think most of my colleagues are. some of my colleagues may have another employer, that kind of thing. i'm un

for healthcare shared by lamar alexander a republican from tennessee and the ranking democrat is patty murray, a democrat from washington state, they have announced hearings on how to stabilize the healthcare system. this all could alter dramatically if president trump decides to eliminate the subsidy next month. i don't know how you put it back together if that's the case. and i have no problems in speaking my mind whether i agree or disagree with the president, and we want a president to succeed. and i hope that that happens in this administration and we want to be supportive of things we support, but we will do our best to put kansans ahead of the conversation of our nation's capital. >> thank you. >> À la get to the front row in just a minute. yes, sir, doctor. >> jerry, thank you for coming here. would you explain how you as the congressman and your staff, explain your healthcare benefits in congress and what plan your on and what plan you can fall back on if the aca is repealed? >> the healthcare benefits for a member of congress receives, this is, there might be a few exceptions, i don

i have a commission that patty murray and i sat up that's under way right now to focus on these measurements. we need to make sure that we bring people into the workforce. the poor are being marginalized and misaligned in many ways because a lot of the programs that we have, well intended as they may be, are discouraging and disincentivizing work. we were just -- no, it's true. we were just talking about -- we were just talking about tax reform. and i was telling you about these successful small businesses in wisconsin. they got a 44.6% tax rate. that's not the highest tax rate pair. i mean, aaron rodgers who deserves every salary is not the highest tax rate pair yer in th state. you know who it is? it's a single mom getting 24 grand in benefits with two kids who will lose 80 cents on the dollar if she goes and takes a job. we have to fix that. and that is why we have to fix it not just by kicking people off callously, but by making sure that we can customize these benefits to help a person get to where she is to where she wants and needs to be. that's why we have the benefits phase out in a

they couldn't get the repeal, so now we're seeing patty murray who are senators republican and democratis in the meantime and buy us some time. you might see something like that with tax reform. but they need a win. i mean, they went into august recess with really nothing. the only thing that has passed the house, senate, and then signed by the president. the only big piece of legislation is a bill that limits trump's power to russian sanctions. so the president was not happy about that. that is not his agenda. so they need some agenda items. connell: absolutely. and the white house is right to point out that certain things are getting done, the rolling back of religions and a more positive business environment. supreme court, but you're right. they need a big legislative win, so we'll see. thanks. good to talk to you. another thing that hanging over all of this is the robert mueller investigation reportedly used not one but two or more grand juries in this whole russia probe. the latest on that coming up net ♪ [vo] progress is seizing the moment. your summer moment awaits you now that