patty murray is working very closely with low morality on that issue, and you will hear from her on that. and we need to come up with long-term government funding deals that keep us safe and fund programs that will help to build the middle class. today was a good day in a generally very partisan town. let's hope we can continue to work together for the good of americans, for the good of the working families who so much need our help. that will be our goal as a caucus. senator durbin.

>> look i spoke to patty murray. the offer she gave lamar alexander was generous and he even said it was a good offer so i just, you know i have a lot of faith in senator alexander's believe in bipartisanship. i hope he you won't let those partisan pressures get them off course. we know how much senator alexander admires howard baker. [inaudible] >> with that and busy with a couple of other issues now that but we do intend to have discussions on those. >> with the time left in the fiscal year and the jewish holiday coming up in the time within a calendar year how concerned about you are worth the calendar with health care reform next. >> that was the majority and it was their choice. i wish they hadn't made it but i think at least for december agreement on a variety of issues we will do very well. >> you suggested last week your daca deal would begin this week. i'm curious what you make of the president's quoting elton john today and reference to the leader of north korea and calling him rocket man's? >> if i were gi

in the help committee between my good friend, chairman alexander, and our great ranking member, patty murray, are proceeding in a bipartisan way in perhaps the new spirit of the moment, maybe longer than a moment, we hope and pray. i'm hopeful that the full senate will be able to this month take up and consider bipartisan legislation that emerges from committee -- from the committee to stabilize and improve our health care system. in a similar vein, we must consider a multiyear reauthorization of chip, the children's health insurance program. chairman hatch and ranking member wyden, again in a bipartisan action are having a hearing on chip today in the finance committee. that should be another matter of immediate priority for this senate. and of course, as the people of florida brace for hurricane irma and the people of puerto rico and the u.s. virgin islands live through it now, the senate must be prepared to quickly respond to that storm just as we're doing with harvey. we also have to take into account some of the other disasters that are occurring in states like washington, oregon, calif

senator patty murray and i came tgget to start this panel. the mission here is to completely re-examine the way government solves problems. you lack at something like the war on poverty. something like we have been at this for decades but the needle has barely move. washington is just stuck in this endless feedback loop where we measure success based on effort, input. how much money are we spending? how many programs have we created? how many people are on those programs? we cling to that when we ought to focus on outcomes. are these programs working? in this case are we getting people out of poverty? this report, the promise of evidence-based policymaking, this report lays out a blueprint for doing that. i'm excited about the potential for more bipartisan progress here. what we should be doing as policymakers is focus on outcomes and results, not just based on input and effort. patty and i will talk about this later in the capitol today. this is something i think is high time in coming with big data, analytics, the tools we have in technolog

. >> talks in the senate between lamar alexander and patty murray broke down. they were trying to come up with a way to fix obamacare by the end of the month but alexander said they couldn't find consensus. >> it's unfortunate. we had a chance to do something important, historic, bipartisan. now we are moving toward another partisan approach. no cbo score, no hearings. >> the breakdown of the talks means the only option to address health insurance market issue short term will be graham-cassidy, trying to make it a binary choice between obamacare and a new plane. plan. >> bret: do you think republicans will repeal obamacare? let me know on twitter @bretbaier. use the hashtag #specialreport or on facebook at facebook.com/bretbaiersr. hurricane maria dropped to a category 2 storm but the damage has already been done in the caribbean, puerto rico is especially hard hit with virtually no electricity on the islands. steve harrigan is live in san juan. good evening. >> good evening, and grim and stunning situation here when you consider this island of 3.5 million peop

>> i spoke to patty murray. the response she said was genuine. i have good faith and senator alexander's believe in bipartisanship. i hope you won't let those partisan pressures get him off course. know how much senator alexander admires howard baker. >> a hearing looking at the latest republican health care plan is getting old for monday morning. republican senators lindsey graham is expected to testify. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2017] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >>. . senate majority leader mitch mcconnell.

patty murray is working very closely with low morality on that issue, and you will hear from her on that. and we need to come up with long-term government funding deals that keep us safe and fund programs that will help to build the middle class. today was a good day in a generally very partisan town. let's hope we can continue to work together for the good of americans, for the good of the working families who so much need our help. that will be our goal as a caucus. senator durbin. >> thanks, chuck. yesterday was a day we won't soon forget. the announcement by the trump administration about daca shook people across the united states, 780,000 daca recipients. they heard from president trump that he loved dreamers and the announced yesterday a change in policy, which will lead to the deportation of the dreamers. well, you can imagine the anxiety and the emotion that was felt by these young people and by the families across america. but the good news is in 24 hours things are changing for the better. we are seeing a resolve, not just by the dreamers, but also by members of congress in bot

patty murray of washington spoke about the importance of immediate long-term fixes on health care. ,> congress can act right away once and for all, that out-of-pocket reductions will continue, and we will have a , as theindow to do that chairman said, before insurance --finalized their plans i'm glad there are members on both sides of the aisle who agree we need to take the steps. it is critical we work toward a multiyear solution. the most impact on family premiums and traces in the marketplace. it takes plans months to develop their race. if we don't find a multiyear solution, we will be back in this room patching the same problem a few months from now, certainly not what certainty looks like. aroundnd of discussion our health-care care system is with democrats have hoped for. we have put forward a number of weas -- as i've said before, are more than ready to consider additional ideas from the other side of the aisle to make our health care system work better for families and patients. forward, notving backward, unaffordability, coverage, and quality of care. families have rejected

i think at some point, whether it's patty murray and lamar alexander, they can get together and help stabilize the market, the senate needs to work with democrats and republicans together to show sure of the problems. if this bill fails, as it clearly looks like it is going to, they've got to address health care, then get the tax reform. maybe they are going to go to tax reform next, at some point they have to get to fixing the health care system. >> jon: let's talk a little bit about electoral politics. its primary day in alabama, president trump and mitch mcconnell are both supporting senator luther strange. he was appointed to fill up jeff sessions' seat. to strangers in a very tight primary race with former state supreme court justice roy bohr. on this one, the majority leader of the senate and the president are aligned. but it's an interesting race that pits republican against republican republican in a critical state. >> the g.o.p. is concerned about this race not because he could lose the general election but because he could win it. if there is any slam dunk race on a statewi

chairman, lamar alexander and the vice chairs on the senate side, patty murray, are engaged in that negotiationthe house should play upon that role and we call upon the speaker. again, this is a very busy time, our tax bill, which we'll get to in a moment, but right now, the urgent matter before us is we have to pass legislation is on the dream act. the president made a commitment to support the dream act. he said in previous meetings with us that he would sign the bill if it came to his desk. it is overwhelmingly supported y the american people. their courage and their optimism of their families and god bless their parents for providing their country with a beautiful future. we are hoping whatever else the republicans in the congress want to do or the president to move the bill along that it will be very, very soon. the -- we want to move forward to have an infrastructure bill. we have our agenda, better deal, better jobs and better pay. infrastructure is an important part of that. ryan-mcconnell framework. whatever you talk about this, don't call it reform. more of the trickle-down conomics t

minute the critical vote was cast the meeting started to take place senator lamar alexander and patty murray talking and i later learned they've reached an agreement to start a series of hearings a week to do is the senate to strengthen the health care system in america that was before the august recess and they kept their word i attended three or four of the member l hearings which they held before the official public hearing these were good meetings with senator alexander saying that 53if senators showed up to meets. with those of insurance commissioners. after that and other coffee and doughnut session as he sits down with five governors and a few days later more experts caveman -- paid in and there was more accomplished and those to be ours and thoseec outstanding witnesses and all the time we had spent giving speeches on the floor of the senate the previous seven months. that was interesting the bringing in these people from different states are different political parties there was a handful of things that we could do to make that an immediate impact positive a cost of health insurance

since then senators lamar alexander and patty murray worked to build consensus for a bill that was -- that will strengthen insurance markets and reduce out-of-pocket costs for consumers. they've done this the right way through committee hearings, bipartisan meetings, and careful deliberation. instead of embracing and endorsing this effort, the president and the majority leader have chosen to double down on their obsession with depriving health care to millions of people across the country now through the graham-cassidy bill. let me be clear. this bill is not a compromise. it is not a new and better idea for delivering health care in this country. it's just a new version of trumpcare. and i might say an even worse proposal than the one we defeated in july. the details matter. this version of trumpcare eliminates the affordable care act's medicaid expansion, and that threatens coverage for more than 110,000 hawaii residents now receiving such coverage. and there are millions all across the country who now get health care coverage thanks to medicaid -- medicare expansion -- medicaid expa

lemar alexander, patty murray, i just talked to patty before i got on the show, she said she's so excited to work with him. she loves working with him. let's get back to those days when republicans and democrats worked together. >> rick, i want to give you the last word and give you a chance to respond. go ahead. >> two points, first on patty and lemar. lemar alexander said in a lunch i happened to be in attendance, that there was no bipartisanship going on. patty murray actually wouldn't negotiate any changes to obamacare. there wasn't anything substantive that could be passed in the united states senate. the democratic demand was just give us the money and you're stuck with the way if is right now. that's the bipartisanship that -- >> no. >> i'm just telling you what lemar alexander said. number two, i love this idea that somehow or another, if you're out there advocating for a system that you believe better treats the people of this country is that you don't care about families. i'm someone who's on the obamacare exchanges. i'm someone who has a child with preexisting conditions. i pay

patty murray and alexander, there's a way we can do short-term market stabilization as well as taking on some of the options, the reinsurance pool, i have been open for a long time the idea of cheaper plans that get young people in. i called them copper plans. there's a lot of common agreement and we just need the runway to play that out and i think you will see that happen in health care. i worry -- and i've spent years as a former is this guy and some of the audience may recall i was part of the so-called gang of 6. i think it's a little weird i work in the only place in america where being a gang member is a good thing. i've -- i am part of every gang there is. i am obsessed about our macroeconomic trends and debt issues. i think i can add value to a tax reform debate, but it's operating premise is republicans are trying to do this with their team only and get 50 or 51 out of 52 votes, i think that would be hearty -- harder on tax reform than to get 65 or 70 votes out of 100. my hope would be they would learn as democrats should have learned before, if you try to do major policy wi

chuck schumer i spoke to patty : murray. the offer she gave to lamar alexander was generous. he even said it was a good offer, so i have a lot of faith in senator alexander's believe in bipartisanship. i hope he won't let those partisan pressures get him off course. howard baker moment would be how to go forward on this, and we know how much senator alexander admires howard baker. announcer 1: in the senate finance committee, a hearing monday on the latest republican health care plan, the cassidy graham proposal. that is live monday afternoon at 2:00 eastern on c-span two. now more on the plan. senate republican leaders were joined by senators graham and cassidy after the weekly party lunch. later we will hear from democratic leaders. and on one final matter, the men and women we represent under obamacare have suffered a lot. plummeting costs. many of us thought our constituents deserved better. that is why we did as we promised in voted to repeal this so we could replace it with something better. the forces of the status

with lamar alexander, the chairman of the health, education, labor and pensions committee; and patty murray, the top democrat on that committee, and they were ready to work on a bipartisan basis. lamar held hearings and by all accounts tough negotiations, difficult challenges, not as much progress as you want as quick as you want. that's the way legislating works. but they're in a bipartisan process, and we show up here and that process is in danger of being blown up. and all for this bill, which is a rotten piece of legislation. it's not like this thing has been vetted by experts. it's not like this thing is bipartisan. it's not like this thing will help. it would be one thing if this were absolutely necessary, and then you can make some procedural accommodations because you just must. this is a political necessity for a party that has not yet had a legislative win. that's why they're doing this. they are in a hurry because they have until september 30 to check a box called we repealed and replaced the affordable care act. they have no new ideas, so what they did was they took all of the b

patty murray on bipartisan legislation on health care. we seeing that gain traction as we move past or seem to be moving past this last piece of health care legislation? sahil: it was gaining track and -- traction. the politics inside the republican party were doing anything that preserved the aca or seen as protect -- protecting the law. we have learned that from this latest repeal effort. those two word negotiating. patty murrahad made a coon in terms of state flexibilityin a attempt to keep those negotiations going because she was worried they would be subtle. they did not work. alexander said they were not reaching consensus and they had to move off. i spoke to patty murray member of her party leadership who invited them back to the table said, let's start the discussion. the longer we wait the more time we waste, the more likely premiums will go up. it remains to be seen. it is a work in progress. my guess is a lot will change in the republican party before they can vote en masse in the house and senate and especially the house. sher

i do think it's important for us to focus on the very strong bipartisan efforts being made by patty murray lamar alexander, and many others. i attended two -- >> not quite what i asked, senator. not quite what i asked. >> katy, what did you ask? >> i asked would you have rather seen bernie sanders wait until after september 30th to talk about medicare for all so that it was not a distraction for the republicans for them to use that as a rallying cry to get the graham/cassidy bill pushed through? >> katy as you well know senator sanders has been talking about universal health care access i think virtually his whole career in the senate. the timing of his bill introduction, yes, i wish it had been put off by a couple of weeks. but i also didn't anticipate, and he probably didn't either, that graham/cassidy would pick up this much steam and that republicans would try one more time to pass trump care and repeal the affordable care act. >> if it does get passed in the senate do you have any hope of stopping it in the house. >> i think it's unlike the senate where we represent entire states. in

that the senate health committee was doing under the leadership of senators lamar alexander and patty murray. we had four substantiative in-depth hearings, widespread participation by the senate, during the past two weeks, and they were very close to producing an initial bill that would help to moderate increases in premiums or actually lower proposals and stabilize the insurance markets to insure that people that people had more choices. that's the avenue that we should take. the aca is a flawed law. and the cost of premiums and deductibles a real problem for individuals, particularly those who don't get subsidies and it's a real problem for our small businesses. so i want to fix those problems. and i see the work we're doing in the health committee as the path forward. i think we should do a series of bills with the first bill being directed at stabilizing the markets and lowering premiums. >> senator susan collins from the great state of maine, thank you so much. we appreciate your time today. >> thank you, jake. >> with senator collins all but certain opposition to the health care bill,

what can we do immediately, and that is the work that's being led by senator alexander, patty murray to come together and say look what they did in minnesota. my state, democratic governor came together and said let's do something called reinsurance which makes it so the most expensive persona pool who's had major catastrophic health event, they get siphoned off and paid for by the government so that everyone's rates don't go up. this is the kind of proposal they're working on for the nation along with other ways to help with copays and allow states to design some of their own insurance without making the drastic cuts that we see in the bill that my colleagues have proposed. >> i want to bring in matt decampbell from arkansas who previously worked as the press secretary for democratic governor mike bee bee. he was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer last year and is currently hoping for scientific advancement that will extend his life. matt, you have a question for senator sanders? >> i do. it feels like all the ideas getting traction right now are extreme measures. you've got graham/cassi

>> that's exactly what we've been doing since july with susan collins, lisa murkowski, with patty murrayself, all on the health committee. >> when will it come to the floor? >> well, as soon as we defeat this, it better. because we have actually through lamar alexander and patty murray's leadership had a high degree of consensus on ways to fix obamacare to stabilize the insurance market, bring down costs, exactly what the public wants us to do. exactly. >> next time chuck and nancy and donald are having chinese at the white house, which i think is great, big city, very big city people, do it. it would be great. you're a great, great senator. >> thank you. >> thank you so much for coming on. >> thank you. >> anyway, that's senator tammy baldwin of wisconsin. for now we're joining by congresswoman nan hayworth, a republican from new york state and a member of the women's independent board of director. thank you for joining us. are we going to get to fixing the problem? where are we at now? i think the gladiatorial part is over. everybody has tried. i don't think there were votes for repeal

chairman lamar alexander and senator patty murray, democrat and republican, have said they're going to hold hearings this week. they want to look at how to stabilize the market. we just had a republican and a democratic governor from colorado and john kasich from ohio announce a bipartisan governor's plan. there's a lot of momentum about actually stabilizing the marketplace, making sure that 22 million people who rely on individual health coverage don't see this market blow up. but the administration so far has not been a part of that conversation. >> so let's talk about these two plans out there, lamar alexander and patty murray and kasich. is that -- are these good roads to go down, or there's another road that bernie sanders and senator warren and senator harris are going down. some are calling it medicare for all, sort of single payer system. some are saying why don't we put forward something very different. which do you think makes the most sense for america to go down now? >> well, i think what we have to do is look at the people right now who rely on this health insurance who ha

to decide what comes next, are they going to seek a bipartisan approach as lamar alexander and patty murray already started on the senate health committee. and one other question i think you're going to hear from a lot of republicans is did the president do enough, could he have done more. certainly this weekend he was not focused on this key piece of legislation and getting this approved by the senate. instead, he was tweeting about football. he was talking about steph curry and his white house visit or lack thereof. and i think you're going to hear frustration in the days to come from republicans who really wanted to get this done and maybe didn't have the support system they would have counted on from the white house. >> jamie began gel, those of -- gangel, those of us who know susan collins know her record on the issue. you've spoken extensively with her in the receint days. once the cbo report came out and said millions of americans would lose their health insurance if this legislation were passed, none of us should be surprised she has decided to come out and say she will vote against

will there be a bipartisan effort, we shall see patty murray of washington and large audience mar alexandria of tennessee who want to try to get something done on a bipartisan basis. will it happen. the death of otto warm beer. we all remember him, the american student who died after being re lease from a north korean prison. north korea torture td and intentionally injured on the on. they described the condition he was in when he came back to the united states. otto had a shaved head. he had a feeding tube coming out of his nose. he was tearing blankly into space jerking vie eventually. he was blind. he was defense as we looked at him and try to comfort him it looked like someone had taken a pair of priors and rea arranged his north korea claims otto warm beer fell into a coma after contracting botch list many and taking a sleemg pill. doctors here in the states said they found no fear of botch list many . the trump administration imposed more sanctions. even russia today got in. they're saying they're ruling out a military solution to the nuclear threat from north korea warning that a war

lamar alexander, patty murray. i just talked to patty before i got on the show. she says she's so excited to work with him. she loves working with him. let's get back to those days when republicans and democrats worked together. >> rick, i want to give you the last word, and i want to give you a chance to respond. go ahead. >> on two points. first, on patty and lamar. lamar alexander said at a lunch i happened to be in attendance at it, that there was no bipartisanship going on and patty murray actually wouldn't norfolk any changes to obamacare there or anything substantive that could be passed in the united states senate. basically, the democratic demand was just give us the money and you're stuck with the way it is right now. that's the bipartisanship -- >> no. >> -- that -- well, i'm just telling what you lamar alexander said. that's number one. number two, i love this -- >> not true. >> -- idea that somehow or another if you're out there advocate forget a system that you believe better treats the people of this country is that you don't care about families. i

there's a bipartisan effort between senator alexander and patty murray out of washington state.id this morning she's likely a new on graham/cassidy. >> i think the president's always willing to work on bipartisan basis, as you know, r -- i know we have a meeting on taxes at the white house on tuesday with republicans and democrats from the ways and means part. republicans on health care have put in very high demand, many aspects of obamacare. but if they want to come to the table and fix it, we're about fixing obamacare. it's broken and it's requiring people to do a lot of things that they just shouldn't be forced to do. >> the president is expected to roll out a tax plan on wednesday and actually reporting that the plan would cut the tax rate for the wealthest american from 45 -- when you were selected as treasury secretary, you made a very specific problem, it was very quickly dubbed the mnuchin rule. >> any reductions we have in income taxes will be justify set by less deductions so there will be no absolute tax cut from the upper class. >> can you reaffirm that there will be

senator patty murray of washington, a democrat. they have proven before they can take complex issues like federal funding for education and find a bipartisan compromise. what would america say if we announced at the end of next week or even this week we have a bipartisan compromise to make health care stronger in the united states, it's going to pass the senate, we're going to send it to the house, we're going to get something done this year in the united states senate? well, first, most americans would be amazed, skeptical, as they should be, but if we can prove that we are going to do it, they would applaud us for finally, finally reaching a point where we do something on a bipartisan basis. that was the process that was under way until last week. senator alexander was given orders by the leadership step back, let's vote on graham-cassidy, don't do anything more on a bipartisan basis. well, this is the week for that vote. i hope it's the week where that vote ends in a basic defeat of the approach and a return to bipartisan compro

and the two leaders of that committee -- lamar alexander, who is the republican chair; and patty murray, who is the democratic ranking member -- are among two of the finest legislators in this body. time after time after time, even when washington has not worked, they have managed to lead that committee to what lamar alexander refers to as a result. it has come to the floor after going through a process in our committee, an amendment process. it's come to the floor for amendment process, whether reforming the f.d.a. or rewriting the elementary and secondary school act which used to be known as no child left behind. that bill got a unanimous vote on our committee. that's quite an achievement. so i have absolute confidence in their ability to deal with this set of issues relating to this 7% -- our population. and what i hope is that bipartisan process will then become a model or a foundation for the work we need to do on health care going forward. we have to turn the page on the last seven years or eight years of these repeal votes. and from my perspective, having failed to repeal, the an

tell me how. >> well, kudos to chairman alexander and patty murray for convening a hearing. what we're seeing now is finally after all of the time where we have been focusing on repealing the aca and americans have said that it's time to work on fixing it. they're getting down to some practical ideas. and today's hearing was a great example, ali. they had three or four ideas brought at them from republicans and democrats, virtually in entire agreement about what they should do. focus on paying the reduction payments that have been hung up in the trump administration. look at potentially loosening some of the state insurance. >> you mentioned one of those things the cost sharing reduction, the payments that go to the states. that is one of the things that president trump has been inconsistent about saying that he's going to continue to make sure get paid. this has nothing to with congress, but the insurers have to make a decision as to what their premiums are going to beer for the next year and if the payments are not continued that's an existential threat to obamacare. in ot

the senate was adjourning, senator lamar alexander and patty murray talking in the middle of the night, it was 3:00 in the morning, they reached an agreement, republican, democrat, on the health committee, to start a series of hearings about what we could do as a senate that would strengthen health care system in america. before our august recess. we are back from recess, they kept their word. i attended three or four member hearings which they held before the official public hearings later in the morning. these were good meetings. i recall senator alexander saying 53 senators, democrats and republicans, showed up for coffee and donuts to meet with us commissioners from five different states. a few days later after that another coffee and donut session, good turnout bipartisan turnout, as we sat down with five governors, democrats and republicans to talk about health insurance. later on a few days later, experts came in and talked about the subject. i felt there was more accomplished in those three hours with those outstanding witnesses from across the country than all of the time we h

lamar alexander, republican, and patty murray, a democrat, were trying to work together on a bill that would just stabilize the obamacare markets, just get that much done by the end of the month. now they've given up. they said they were making progress, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. the other big one out there is to repeal obamacare is the graham casady bill. there are still some republicans that have differences with that. they're trying to push it but not everyone is on board. in fact, ten governors have written to the senate saying that they preferred the marketplace correction. in other words, dealing with the situation as it is right now to the graham casady bill. it's not clear that any of these will pass by the end of the 30th they'll need 60, not 50 votes to get it done. >> tracie potts live on capitol hill for us. thank you. >>> 4:48 now. the woman who breached security at the white house at least five times is now free. a judge released her saying she's served enough time already. she has been locked up or had been locked up since the 4th of july when she

. >> this was republican senator lamar alex ander in the senate and democratic senator patty murray. both of them were working on something to stabilize the health care markets. that has now dissolved. >> here's what i think is interesting. i get it. some members of the republican party want to push this through before september 30th while they only need 50 votes. guess what? if they put their pencils down and continue to work together, got a cbo score, then after the fact when they need to get 60 votes, maybe they got a better shot of getting it. >> make this really bipartisan. i would rather take another year and get this right than rush because some of artificial deadline that has something to do with voting numbers in the senate and get it wrong. >> i energy it's a win today not long term f you live in a state like pennsylvania that could lose billions and billions, great. your republican senator or congressman might get a win today and the president will no longer attack him on twitter. but then when you lose the health care, you're not going to be in such good shape. >> if you

by the way, says that this effort that was being worked on by republican senator alexander and patty murray they're close to coming to a deal that could stabilize these individual health care markets. so we're still pursuing that idea. >> that's good news. >> that is good news. >> so that's going to be an issue that will continue to follow as well. >> at the end of the day, if we can get pasted this idea of jamming through 50 votes, if there was bipartisanship that's a dwlimer of long-term solution and right now they just need help. puerto rico still reeling from shortages of power, water, food and cash. more than a week after hurricane maria hit. the island was already rocked from $70 billion in public debt that forced it into bankruptcy four months before the storm and president weighed in on twitter this week noting quote, puerto rico was already suffering from broken infrastructure and massive debt. much of the island was destroyed with billions of dollars owed to wall street and the banks which sadly must be dealt with. on thursday the white house temporarily waived the jones act to ex

now it's actually straight forward ways to do that in the senate, alexander and patty murray effort to make that happen is a critical first step. then you have to build and do the thing we're not doing now, message i heard from people is that, the public debate and also the public hearing process around solutions like allowing buy in or transitioning to allow states to make this passageway. >> dickerson: help people understand what stabilize means for the affordable care act they may not understand what that means and why that is important. >> yeah. all the thing that people are pointing to right now, premiums are going up, why are they going up? because the insurers are uncertain, is the government going to enforce the mandate? is there going to be subsidies to ensure that people who captain afford their deductibles that they aren't bankrupted along the way. those basic components haven't been nailed down. there's total uncertainty what is supposed to happen. providing some certainty brings the premiums down. there are also programs that people have tried everywhere from minnesota to

you see lamar alexander, senator patty murray of washington working on their own proposal. could that actually happen? >> none of these people really totally like obamacare in its current form. there is republican and democratic agreement that if we don't figure out a way to shore up the insurance markets, if we don't figure out a way to stabilize them, if we don't give the insurance companies some kind of idea that this is -- the payments to them from the federal government are going to continue, they will keep pulling out. so while that could be a way to sort of destroy obamacare, which is something republicans might want, if that makes it harder for people to get health insurance, i think you're going to see people try to come together around this, which is what alexander and murray were doing. >> alabama participating in a primary runoff, senator rand paul of kentucky firmly opposed, does the white house feel any pressure to move on health care? >> they'd like to move. based on opportunity this week, i think there was momentum building behind this bill. it's the reason

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if the administration would make it clear as chairman alexander and patty murray are saying that therantee going i think you will see rates come down quickly across the country before open enrollment starts. david: is there any way to quantify that cost? the very fact of the and certainty of the insurance companies on whether they have it actually increases cost for health care. sort of needlessly. any idea how much that adds to the cost? kathleen: we know what the real cost is in terms of $7 billion was paid back to companies last year. if you count the subsidies that they were owed. tage is a $7 billion price remaining for 2018 and this administration has basically told insurance companies a month at a time whether or not they will be paid back. that is no way to run a business. you can't actually file a break. just tell them what the rules are that they can file rates. i used to be an insurance commissioner and what we knew is that companies will sell product, but they need to know what the rules are, what the operation -- operating guide rails are. not telling the makes it very d

had a couple of hearings and out lamar alexander republican chair of the health committee and patty murray the ranking democrat started it they had the hearings and they started to craft a bill and then things changed why did senate majority leader mitch mcconnell try to push this through and now he has. taking it from every direction from donald trump all of the tweets still trying to push it through this was their big headline it was well the reason he tried to do it was this a nother term of art on capitol hill called reconciliation and like regular order reconciliation has a fairly easy to understand meeting it's reconciling the your bills your accounts receivable essentially in congress and that can only happen with fifty votes because they figured it's just bookkeeping originally when i did this and so we wouldn't need some supermajority like you have at other times in the senate the only problem is reconciliation happens for the fiscal year in which we are in which ends this weekend so on october first they would need potentially sixty votes as opposed to the fifty votes and that's

they want something like the patty murray bill which is a bipartisan set of fixes as opposed to we'llf this and put something else new in. do they come back to that? i still think it's not going to mitigate the fact that you're going to see angry republican base voters. i would be surprised if donald trump -- and they will be at -- they will be out in full force in that alabama primary an tuesday. i don't know who that benefits but i would be amazed if donald trump didn't mention this or john mccain mention this in his speech tonight. >> he did before. thank you so much. >> thank you. >>> and up next, rescues underway right now in mexico day after that devastating earthquake. mexico's president says as many as ten collapsed buildings could still have people struggling to stay alive. a live report up next. you can do endless onlineve research about the ct6. or you can come in and have it all for less than you might imagine. don't wait. our 2017 models will be moving fast. you can drive a car. or you can drive a cadillac. during the cadillac made to move 2017 clearance event, current no

. >> harris: meanwhile, lamar alexander and patty murray were working on a deal when negotiations brokeown. democrats are blaming republicans, i'm sure it's going both ways, saying they failed to push through their new bill. chuck schumer with this statement on it. this is not about substance p or we give them any of the things they asked for, the republic and leadership is so eager to pass graham-cassidy, that they're scuttling a balance of bipartisan negotiations. colonel, what do you think? >> michael: i was just down in jacksonville where i'm from and they had horrific flooding and people down there are so fed up. that's the story of the 2016 election, we are voting people out to vote people in and get stuff done. there is an expectation there whether it's tax reform, whether it's obamacare repeal and replacement, why can't we just get this done? it's critical with the republican party to get this passed and we have to get a pass to the next couple of days. >> harris: this is part of the make america great again campaign. it didn't need to be. republic and support on this for more t

you had senator lamar alexander and patty murray trying to work on a bipartisan fix by the end of the disappointment. >> it's unfortunate. we had a chance to do something important, historic, bipartisan that would have built on the healthcare system that we have in this country. now we're moving to another partisan approach. no cbo score, no hearings. getting ready to repeat what we did a few months ago. >> former president obama weighed in this afternoon calling the latest attempt to scrap obamacare aggravating. >> all of this is being done without any economic or actionary or plain common sense rationale. it frustrates. it's certainly frustrating to have to mobilize every couple months to keep our leaders from inflicting real human suffering on our constituents. >> it's not entirely clear if republicans will get to 50 yes votes, shep. >> shepard: mike emanuel at the rotunda on the hill. thank you. we'll be right back. tech: when you schedule with safelite autoglass, you get a text when we're on our way. you can see exactly when we'll arrive. i'm micah with safelite. customer: thanks

the sad thing is also that it's going to derail attempts by lamar alexander and patty murray who areg a strong bipartisan effort to address the immediate uncertainty in the insurance market that is affecting so many in the country, and it's hard to understand why there's a driving effort to pass a partisan piece of legislation that would deny people their health care. >> thinking of bipartisanship, i want to ask you about what you have seen in terms of protecting the d.r.e.a.m.ers. as you know nancy pelosi and chuck schumer sat down with trump in a surprise move, and president trump seemed to side with them and they say they will craft something to protect d.r.e.a.m.ers, and then something unusual happened yesterday, senator, nancy pelosi was met with backlash. he was in san francisco, and she was at a news conference and young -- i believe, d.r.e.a.m.ers, certainly young people were shouting at her and chanting. let me play a moment of this so you can react. >> you have cut off the d.r.e.a.m.ers who are here to speak. [ yelling ] [ chanting ] >> let us speak! let us speak! >> part o

is also a bipartisan effort on capitol hill led by republican lamar alexander of tennessee and patty murrayf washington to try to fix obamacare by the end of the month. it is clear this late push has alarmed democrats and outside groups. >> julie: all right, thank you very much, mike emanuel. >> jon: we are closely watching what's happening in the caribbean, category 5 hurricane maria preparing to make landfall on puerto rico after its 160-mile-an-hour winds slammed islands just starting to recover from hurricane irma. plus, president trump with plenty of tough talk in his first speech before the u.n. general assembly. for the regimes in north korea and iran and the world leaders he says need to step up to handle threats. we are getting reaction to it all from our political panel after the break. >> no one has shown more contempt for other nations and for the well-being of their own people than the depraved regime in north korea. >> julie: right now the president attending the luncheon hosted by the secretary general of the united nations. right now, we want to talk about the world reacting