> in the early 19 hundreds the big presidential primary was in 1912 because that was the year patty roosevelt decided to be president again. it wasn't enough to get him the nomination, so he stopped and created the bonus party that resulted it kind of put a hold on it for now. when did the smoke-filled back rooms fadeaway? >> at fadeaway not so much because of presidential primaries. it may not have been a formal following but it seemed to have a lot of influence. there's also more outside pressures from interest groups. the media provided more coverage with radio and television, so that sort of limited the abilities of the backroom deals. >> the early victory helped the later victories, how is that? .. they are discussing the candidates and having that grass roots democracy is now a little bit more that the people come there with their preferences pretty firm it is very drawn out is just the first thing. it doesn't actually select delegates. in the state convention. state convention. does the system work. does the system work. it works as will is anything we could think of or get past right