patty shimek is a founder of a nonprofit grassroots organization called partners in prevention, and kathy baxter, who led the san francisco child abuse prevention council for decades, and she has been my mentor on child-abuse issues for three decades. i can't believe it's been that long. wow. so now you have a whole new venture. this is just such a nice supplement to the work that katie albright is doing. >> she's been my mentor, too. >> all right, so, patty, let me start with you. you founded this. kathy, you're the vice president. so what is partners in prevention and why did you do it? >> as you said, we are a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization comprised of people who believe that prevention is the way to end child abuse in this country and in our communities. >> and you also have a lot of products that we're gonna talk about in a little while, right? >> yes, yes. >> but, kathy, why did you and patty decide to join forces on this? >> well, you know, cheryl, i'd worked in the field for so long, and i consider myself a civilian now, i've been saying. i'm retired. i wanted to do someth

our guests are patty shimek, the founder of partners in prevention, and kathy baxter, the vice president of partners in prevention, and both of them are longtime advocates for prevention, and we talked about what it means to be a partner in prevention. it's something we all need to get involved with, but you have so much great material here. so i want to start first with these dolls whom i got to see during a presentation at a school to help children learn about safe touches, good and bad touches. >> mm-hmm. >> so, what are these guys' names here? >> harry and sally. >> [ chuckles ] they're so cute. now, their clothing is just -- it's covering strategic places. >> mm-hmm, right. they're bathing suits, right, on harry, and on sally, the two-piece bathing suit, which are very obvious, clear messages for children to identify these are your private areas. >> mm-hmm. all right, now you also have -- this goes in the schools to talk to kids about touches, and the message that you have for them is three easy rules. >> right. >> yes, yes. it's say no, get away, and tell someone, and keep telling