intermediaries to the lord because we were on television but behind the scene, other things were taking place, patwas deciding to run for president . there was the presidential jets, there was the, some transaction in africa going on with gold mines and diamond mines and the irs was getting involved in money distribution with nonprofit organizations and political ambitions and super pacs and all of this business was going on. and it was throwing the show and me, and the producers off balance a bit. it got to be very uncomfortable and if pat is running for president, he finds out from a reporter that my brother is really my son. pat confronts me about it. >> he's afraid that the news is going to hurt his political campaign. >> that his cohost has this past and so he compels me to tell my son, to tell that he is actually my son and that was, that was pretty uncomfortable. i'm not sure he was ready for that information. >> just to save amends political career and to destroy a family, a unit and to invade that privacy was very uncomfortable. >> my son took it pretty well but it was, it was another reason