paul: alicia., they've done this on the pretense that there's a teacher shortage, however, thousands of teachers in california are getting warnings that they could be laid off principally because pension obligations are too high. but there is no teacher shortage in california. the real problem is there aren't enough good teachers. paul: all right. dan. >> i'm giving my miss to the great debate over whether the russians did something to the election of 2016. the justice department has just indicted four russians, including two from their intelligence services, for stealing up to a billion accounts from yahoo! users. this means that not only perhaps that the clinton campaign got hacked, the russians are stealing accounts from all of us. paul: and those guys will probably never face a court of law in the united states. >> three of them aren't here. paul: all right. if you have your own hit or miss, tweet it to us at jer on fnc. that's it for this week, thanks to you for watching. week. ♪ ♪ kelly: hell

welcome, sorab. >> hi, paul. paul: okay.dit for this a day around the attack. -- after the attack. do authorities agree this was islamic state at least inspired? >> i think that's something they're still investigating. they've made a number of arrests in birmingham and elsewhere where khalid masood had contacts. the islamic state has claimed responsibility through media channels and said mehsud was a, quote-unquote, soldier of the caliphate. but that remains to be seen, because the organization has a tendency to do that where people who are inspired by its message, who are lone wolves characters, after the fact when they go out, then the organization takes credit for them, and it really doesn't matter in a way because they had no -- they may never have had any direct contact with the organization and may not have been plugged into the official jihadist networks. but nevertheless, drew inspiration from it and then islamic state can point to the fact afterwards and feed this to its supporters as a success. paul: one thing we h

paul: right.hat are optioning for defense, things like that. and then its core function is to score or calculate the impact on the federal budge of any piece of legislation they're considering. o so what happens to taxes coming in, what happens to the spending going out. paul: right. but they, the congress can ignore those numbers if they want and set their own policy because, after all, they're the people who did put their ideas before the voters. >> yes. absolutely. and i always try to remind people that cbo's job is to calculate the federal budget cost of policy. its lawmakers' job to identify the benefits and say it's really worth doing this. paul: okay. so let's start with the two big numbers here, the 24 million in lost coverage. what do you make of that prediction? it seems to me looking at the report that it is based, basically most of it, on the tact that the mandate to buy insurance would go away. you agree with that? >> yeah, that's the crucial piece. and the easiest way to see that is

paul: yeah.nt to summarize the debt, as i understand it. it's made up of bank loans, legal bills, the build-out loan for this place, taxes, and payables. you said that you -- man: ah, farrell's crowd, look this way! 'cause i got something very important to say! lemonis: so, the total amount of debt... [ drums beating ] you want to hear something funny? that's the reason people don't come back here. shauna: i know it is. lemonis: it's actually annoying. it can be done in a more elegant way. i don't want to come here and enjoy a meal if it's not my birthday, 'cause i don't want to listen to that nine times. $1,940,000 is the total debt for this entire company, and you have no cash. i mean, it's just -- it's like a train wreck. paul: yeah. lemonis: out of their five locations, three are making money, generating profits of just over $600,000 last year. but when you look at the two remaining locations, their losses take that profit down to just about $250,000. and then you factor in servicing debt of

paul: as some of us have. that's it for this week's show. i'm paul gigot.ee you next week. [♪] julie: i'm julie banderas. welcome to "america's news headquarters." kelly: i'm kelly wright. bombshell allegations from president obama that the obama administration had his phone lines wiretapped during the presidential campaign. the white house promising more details on this soon. julie: a the vice president response to news that he used a private email for government

it has worked for paul ryan. and only for paul ryan. you could have gone through the entire day of today's coverage of the story and not heard a single reference to that fact. "i had to brief the speaker first." that line. that quote. the fact that devin nunes went to paul ryan first has gone virtually completely unnoticed, except on this program last night, because devin nunes has kept talking and kept contradicting himself, suggesting he knows that donald trump himself was one of the people mentioned in the intelligence reports that he saw, then suggesting he doesn't know the names of the people who were mentioned in the intelligence reports that he saw, but it was easy to guess who they were. devin nunes keeps talking in confusing circles. and tonight devin nunes is clinging to the wreckage of his chairmanship. he might be able to put it back together. he might be able to hold on to that chairmanship. but he had better never get caught singing this again. "i had to brief the speaker first." joining us now, democratic congressman eric

devin nunes scandal is the paul ryan scandal. that's why paul ryan is not ordering devin nunes to recuse himself because he's in this thing as deep as devin nunes is. if devin nunes can lose his chairmanship over it then paul ryan can lose his speaker ship over it. speculation among staffers on the intelligence committee is that michael ellis is the source of the intelligence information nunes saw. this report says that he's a lawyer that works for him on the intelligence panel and who was recently hired to work on national security matters at the white house council's office and spokesman for nunes declined to comment on whether he was involved in providing information to nunes. so now we have a name to ask devin nunes about. was your source michael ellis? >> we're not going to ever talk about any of that. >> former acting director of the cia and jeremy bash, msnbc national security analyst and former chief of staff to leon when he was director and the defense department. john, your reading on where this story stands tonight, wh

where is paul? paul manafort. paul manafort has done a fantastic job. and all of paul's people. paul brought on staff. and we really do, we have a great staff of talented people. >> that was the day after the republican convention, which was run by paul manafort, just as the trump campaign was being run by paul manafort at that time. today the associated press reports before signing up with donald trump, former campaign manager paul manafort secretly worked for a russian billionaire with a plan to greatly benefit the putin government. manafort proposed in a confidential strategy plan, as early as june 2005 that he would influence politics, business dealings, and news coverage inside the united states. manafort pitched the plans to aluminum magnate oleg deripaska, a close putin ally with whom manafort eventually signed a $10 million annual contract beginning in 2006. paul manafort has confirmed that he did work for that russian billionaire almost a decade ago. and today he told nbc news i did not work for the russian government. once again, smear a innuendo are being used to pain

rand paul said during the process that the president had the wool pulled over his eyes by paul ryan and ryan and priebus wanted them to see it his way. will this affect their relationship going forward? >> not at all. the president knows how hard paul ryan worked to get this going forward. it was an entitlement we haven't seen in 30 years. this is a very big thing, something we hoped to get through. the agenda moves on. we have a bold and robust agenda. we'll roll on. >> there are reports on breitbart and conservatives calling for paul ryan to step aside. what's your response? >> it's up to the members of the house. i think the president showed his confidence in the speaker today. the speaker worked hard as the president noted. >> we'll see where that goes. thank you. good to see you. >> more on that to come. the other fast developing story, the now congressional probe into spying on then president-elect trump as volunteers vote to clear their name, eric flawwell. peepete hoekstra responds. we have a crazy day 64 in washington when we come back. when you're close to the people you love,

>> paul: yes.or. paul and i discuss the perilous nature of a life in comedy, over some drinks and food at longman & eagle. where though the flannels and neck beards are abundant the food is excellent. ♪ beef tartare, i like that. and who does not love roasted bone marrow? tête de cochon with blue cheese and celery relish. the good lord wants you to eat this. really, he speaks to me all the time. confit of beef tripe, and since i'm all about vegetables, slow roasted cauliflower with caramelized onions and lentils. so does second city travel, they have a road company? >> paul: there are touring companies, three touring companies. they're on cruise ships as well so i did ten months on a cruise ship. >> anthony: oh! >> paul: which is ten months of looking at the water and wondering you ow at this trajectory would the boat pull me under? if i've had this much to drink, how long before the boat is out of my sightline? >> anthony: so that's like a prison ship, i mean. >> paul: yes. >> anthony: because you

paul shaffer is here. into eric estrada's motorcycle boots and tight pants too. he plays "ponch" in the big-screen "chips" that opens march 24th. please welcome michael pena! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> jimmy: how are you? >> i'm doing good, man. >> jimmy: very good to see you. you did a great job in "chips." you're ponch. >> thank you, man. i overheard you say tight pants. this was some chafing going on for sure, they were tight, i'm not going to lie. >> jimmy: you didn't have any kind of undergarment protecting you? >> no, it was really, really hot outside. we shot in los angeles. and i tried to do everything. but everything got to me. like the stitching. then i'm like, i actually got like a chafing stick. >> jimmy: is that a thing? >> what, what? some people are like, eww! it's true! i'm not making it look too sexy but whatever. >> jimmy: is a chafing stick something you rub on -- >> on my thighs. you know. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: are you talking about your penis? >> no! [ laughter ] >> jimmy: i don't k

paul ryan staked a lot on this.self around the president in the process and talked about they worked in lock step. sounds as if this was going down and paul ryan's name would be on it, he would take others with it. >> paul ryan was attached to the hip of donald trump. that started. they were not aligned with one another after the access hollywood tape last fall. paul ryan said some very negative things about the republican candidate at that stage. you never thought they would meet. once they got a republican in the white house, everybody said we have unified government. paul ryan has said this a thousand times the past couple years since he's been in leadership, since he's been the speaker. he said look, we have to have unified government to move this big issues. tax reform, repealing and replace obamacare. they stumbled very badly today. something i want to point to. it is a four-year term for the president. you always have these hiccups early on. i don't know if sometimes they can maybe resuscitate this bill. some

>> this is paul ryan's ambition. he's wanted to black grant medicaid and send it to the states and he wants to cut the taxes imposed under the affordable care act to help pay for health care which total about a trillion dollars over ten years. so that was the motivation behind this bill from the leadership's perspective. cut taxes for the wealthy in corporations, cut back on assistance for low income americans and that's all that matters to them. they were never concerned about how to improve the health care of the american people. >> you serve with paul ryan, you work there with him on the day to day basis. if he were to succeed in getting to do this, in cutting medicaid in draconian fashion, in having this massive tax cut and basically deregulating the health insurance market, do you think that he would then move on to something like medicare? is there any limit to the number of social programs that, in your view, paul ryan would go after in this manner? >> there is no limit, joy. he's been very, very public. he wa

we'll see what happens to paul ryan who we are about to hear from. paul ryan. steve forbes, veronica daguerre, of "the wall street journal," gary kaltbaum capital management and fox news contributor. steve, why didn't they do taxes first? imagine what they would have avoided? >> david, that is a huge question. also shows the republican leadership in congress, in the house in particular is too obedient to the congressional budget office and this crazy way they have of scoring. they thought if they did health care first they would have more points so to speak to do tax cuts instead of doing tax cuts, saying the heck with the cbo, the congressional budget, do what is right for the economy. david: you have read all the rules, they claim, the establishment republicans claim they could not go to tax cuts first. do they have a leg to stand on there? >> they can find a lot of fall der raul to say yes they do but bottom line, david, they appoint the parliamentarians, they write the rules, interpret rules, if they want to go seriously with tax cuts they should have done

here is sean spicer, what he said about paul manafort. >> there's been discussion about paul manafort who played a limited role for a limited amount of time. he played a significant role in the convention and delegate operations of four previous republican nominees, bob dole, bush, reagan and ford. >> bakari you were here with us the entirety of the campaign. did paul manafort serve for a limited period of time and have limited influence in this campaign? >> i appreciate not only the guests here tonight but sean spicer attempting to spin this, but the problem is that the evidence is mounting up in greater numbers than simply paul manafort. americans aren't stupid. we know that paul manafort was the campaign manager. to say he was some incidental figure is spinning at best and lying at worst. that doesn't help explain michael flynn, carter page or roger stone. when you have all of these ties to russia, when you have this mounting evidence -- i mean, it is circumstantial to its point. you just can't ignore it, though. i think what donald trump, what his supporters, what his surrogates w

rachel: eveonlikes paul ryan in the house conference.he republican party is like that loud latino-italian family that has all their fights out in the open. i think the process is healthier and more transparent. in the end we'll get a better bill. lou: i'm sure he's a lovely fellow. but he's incompetent. he never achieved anything in congress. he hasn't passed significant legislation. he has been there for 18 years. two years as speaker. what do you say? rain rrp budget reform -- rachel: budget reform wasn't even a thought in the process until paul ryan. the democrats look united, but it's all under the surface and they rig their election. lou: who would want to fight with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer? rachel: they are going come back with a better bill. lou: who will be the speaker when they do? rachel: paul ryan will be the speaker. lou: the result has been crickets. what do you think, lou? gayle: i think rachel is right, paul ryan is your typical d.c. thought leader and not a do-leader. we were talking about the replacement for speak

was paul manafort being black mailed? i have no idea.enials all around from people who are supposed to be the good guys or bad guys. i don't know what it means. like i said, sometimes the story itself is less important that what it shakes loose. with regard to that claim that paul manafort was paid to arrange a meeting between donald trump and this pro-putin policing in 2012, both paul manafort and the white house are pushing back on that allegation to politico. paul manafort couldn't have been paid to arrange such a meeting because why would anybody go to him to get to donald trump in 2012? paul manafort and donald trump had no connection back then. paul manafort in fact never worked with donald trump before he became his campaign chairman in 2016. and i think they see that as a great rebuttal to this story. but in offering that confirmed information to bat back this allegation that really board them, they do raise a whole other way more interesting question. i don't know, and i don't really care whether or not he was the target of blac

that's from house speaker paul ryan. look at this. states that 31 states who took the medicaid expansion, advantage of obamacare's medicaid expansion. one of those is the great state of arkansas. and arkansas' governor esa hutchison is joining me. thanks for joining us. >> it's really good to be with you today. >> so paul ryan is encouraged from what he sees in this congressional budget office report. are you encouraged? >> well, i was concerned before the cbo report came out, and i'm concerned about a cost shift to the states. and if you're looking at 20-some million that might be not covered based upon the cbo report, who is going to have to pick that up? it's either going to be individuals who are not covered, perhaps that's because their individual decision, but it also could be that they are going to have to have that emergency room care. and so i'm concerned about that cost shift to the state. clearly speaker ryan has a challenge ahead of him trying to keep the coalition together to get something passed because what we have does

>> remember paul ryan truly did not want this job.people don't want it now. >> people thought it was career ender, no way to bridge the moderates and very conservative base. imagine a call from him to nancy pelosi hey, let's get your top head, our top heads together and bring in schumer and bring in mcconnell. that thinkable? not in the current environment but maybe there is a sense of desperation that we have that happen. that is what it will take. ashley: i don't know. what do you think? can democrats even admit there is something majorly wrong with obamacare in order to put something together to fix it? >> no. i spent unfortunately for me hours with debate. you would think the republicans are rolling back civil rights. you would think republicans are putting people in chains. this was absolutely insane listen to the debate. everyone needs to step back from the brink. you were elected given a privilege to represent the american people. you are forgotten that. ashley: do you think this is overblown to a point? this is artificial time

that is why they brought on paul manafort. yes, it is also true that donald trump and paul manafort didn't really get along all too well and ultimately what led to paul manafort's demise within the campaign were news reports about his alleged ties to russia through viktor yanukovych, president of ukraine, that he once counseled. so russia pushed him out but he was a big influencer during the campaign and as you said, the convention was his baby. he focused on it. his role, his goal was to make the convention go off without a hitch. >> so, michael, that sound you hear is a bus rolling over paul manafort. how is this going to go over with paul manafort and any of the slew of other people who will be mentioned as kind of fringe figures, hangers-on? >> yeah, yeah. well, brian, this is where the stories can get interesting as people get thrown under the bus and scurry out from under the wheels just in time to rat on somebody else and people turn on each other. indeed, that could be one consequence of the federal investigation. you

i never saw the president for a second try and blame paul ryan. >> publicly he has stood by paul ryan. what is the speaker's future, greg? >> i think he will stay as speaker. i think people in the white house are a little more suspicious about taking advice from him but to be fair i think the white house gets a couple of victories, i think gorsuch one way or another will be on the supreme court. they are going to move on to regulatory reform, trade, so there will be other issues and i think it's premature to write the obituary for paul ryan. >> but if gorsuch doesn't get the 60 votes will tell an awful lot about willingness to work with republicans. but let's move on to the speed of this legislation. the efforts to get this through. that was at the heart of the criticism of two senators on sunday. listen. >> i'm not saying we needed 14 months to do this but i think a more careful and deliberate approach which we have time to do would have gotten us down the path of solution, health care is a very difficult issue, to write it and expect to be passed in 18 days is not feasible. >> devot

paul manafort was removed from the campaign.they deemed him as a distraction. >> huge task, this promise from republicans for years and years, now repeal and replace obamacare. we're on the eve on this vote on the house side. this is all about numbers right like the magic number is 216, they need it to be a big resounding yes and what sinks it? 21 republicans? >> that's right. they could afford to lose 21 republicans. that's why we've seen an eormous pressure campaign because they're short. they're not there yet and i think they're willing to acknowledge that, but i think there's interesting dynamic occurring, in fact a fascinating dynamic, terrifying if you're the speaker. i want to first play out from sean spicer, this is a crucial point what happens if they don't get the vote. >> i know we saw lou barletta who was a knno, steve king was no, now a yes, the count keeps getting stronger for us. >> and if it doesn't pass is there a plan b? >> no, there's plan a and plan a and we're going to get this done. >> so you are confident,

, it's paul ryan's fault. >> very interesting.iate it. you know, you've been on the inside. >>> republicans this morning are dealing with the cbo report that says 24 million americans more will be uninsured if their repeal or replace bill passes. in just a few minutes, democrats have a chance to speak. we'll hear from house minority leader nancy pelosi. stick around. we'll bring you those comments live. isjust wanna see ifa again? my score changed... you wanna check yours? scores don't change that much. i haven't changed. oh, really? ♪ it's girls' night they said business casual. i love summer weddings! oh no. yeah, maybe it is time. maybe i should check my credit score. try credit karma. it's free. oh woah. that's different. check out credit karma today. credit karma. give yourself some credit. you may be muddling through allergies.oned with... try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin®. because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. try zyrtec®. muddle no more®. >>> all right

paul ryan, yes, i have a soul. panel remains with me. >> robert costa, it is your new reporting that started all of this off. what's going on between the white house and which elements of the white house and the speaker. >> on the service, the relationship is cordial and professional between the white house and the speaker. the president had a 4:00 call today with speaker ryan. there are a lot of forces. we talk about the freedom causes and congress. my colleague really zoned in tonight of the populist. >> all the different people that we detail in our article tonight are telling the white house and trump himself to back away. >> ali velshi, is the head lain of this plan we know it is dead and that's the effort to name it ryan care on its way to the grave. >> it is interesting how this did not play well. the white house thought it would go over better with conservatives. the problem is healthcare is something that you have to think about ideologically. either you believe everybody should have healthcare and every d

he doesn't blame paul ryan. in fact, he thought paul ryan worked really hard. he enjoys his relationship with paul ryan. he thinks that paul ryan is a great speaker of the house. >> so very kind words coming from the chief of staffer and others in the white house. but the big question here going forward, fred, the proof is in the pudding. can the white house work well with speaker ryan and with the entire republican caucus in the house and in the senate in the end to get done some of the big things they want to get done. and we'll just have to wait and see if they can. >> athena jones, thank you. so. >>> let's discuss with our panel now, jeffrey lorde and the democratic national committeeman. hello, the el l hello. jeffrey, let's begin with you. the president likes to call himself the closer and to make deals. should he be to blame for not closing this deal on health care? >> no, i don't think this is over by a long shot. this is like tom brady saying he's lost at halftime. there's a long way to go. i'm looking over here at a trump book called "never give up."

we'll bring the paul ryan news conference to you as soon as it gets started. we'll have live coverage here on c-span. until then, back to your calls. dennis on the line for independents in texas. hi, dennis. caller: hello, how are you today? host: good. caller: great. i'm 70. i retired from at&t. i have signa health care. i'm very happy with my coverage. the constitution does not say anywhere that it is the government's responsibility to furnish health care for the american people. now, as far as health care , i g a right or a privilege don't believe it's a right. like the second amendment. because that is in the constitution. if a person does not have health care and their only job that does not furnish that, it go heir responsibility to to a company that has health care or maybe go back -- go to night school and get a better education so you can afford health care. but the not the government's responsibility -- it's not the government's responsibility to give health care to anyone. we have too many programs now, people on welfare and people that are perpetua

paul keeps telling us all, and we ran on it, but i didn't run on paul ryan's plan of obamacare lite. think most conservatives across the country didn't run on obamacare lite. i think that is misrepresenting it to the president. i think that there is a lot we agree on. we agree on repeal, but we do not agree on replays, that is why i keep saying, why don't we separate repealed from replace, then let's vote on replacement, same-day, just a different feel. >> eric: let's talk about that. let's say you to get the house, then the senate, to repeal and replace, doesn't that leave the lot of people in the lurch? >> the only reason i'm saying separate them, i don't think all republicans agree on replacement, i don't think democrats and republicans agree on replacements. let's vote on paul ryan's obamacare lite, let's vote on the conservative version, which would be market repeal or market reforms, and much love the democrats have a proposal as well. maybe we have four or five different replacements, we come to some coalition or coalescing where some replacement can pass. i am still forebodin

and paul ryan did the same. so, look, the fact that he's publicly willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with ryan on this and sort of admit defeat, admit that this didn't work, and he went out of his way to attempt a deflection game. i don't know if it's going to work in the long run, but saying, hey, health care is on democrats now, it's on democrats. but there is something else to read between the lines there, brian, that i know this about this white house and him right now, and his way of throwing out an invitation to democrats. he basically admitted, this is very difficult to do without the help of democrats. well, it wasn't exactly repealing obamacare, that isn't exactly a way to reach out to democrats. but he is basically saying, any democrat that wants to come to me with an idea of messing around with obamacare, he may listen. and it may not happen next week or next month, but if he's -- if the lesson he's taken away from this is, he needs to have a better relationship with democrats in congress if he's g

paul has a new album, "paul shaffer and the world's most dangerous band."ou're going to play with jenny lewis and shaggy. >> body of them do guest shots on the record, they sing beautiful songs, we're going to play them for you tonight. >> i know you've gone stuff with jenny lewis. how did you and shag 50 meet and get together? >> i was looking for the aerie heights and there he was. >> he's always there if you need him. paul will be here all night tonight. he'll be playing for us later on in the program. [ cheers and applause ] last night, i mentioned this a moment ago, last night on msnbc we finally got a look at donald trump's tax returns, sort of. rachel maddow, on twitter yesterday rachel wrote, i have his tax returns, i will be revealing them on-air. of course everyone went nuts. this is how crazy he's made us. we're rushing to our tvs screaming, quick! rachel maddow's about to show a 1040 form! the show starts, she does a 19-minute-long monologue about why it's important to see a president's tax returns, then "we'll see donald trump's taxes after thi

okay. >> paul, put the gown on. >> paul, i'm trying to make it easy. you're not going to get hurt. >> sergeant turry has decided to remove dixon from his cell and place him in a restraint chair so he can be safely evaluated by medical staff. >> paul, relax. >> for legal reasons jail policy has to videotape incidents like this one. >> nobody is hurting you. listen. nobody is hurting you. ready? relax. grab him. intake. >> go ahead, go right there. >> nonviolent. >> dixon is back in jail on a parole violation. he had been sentenced to 101 days for third degree theft. he's had prior convictions for theft, as well. >> don't hurt me. >> we have to put him in the restraint chair until he gets calmed down and gets evaluated once again. by the medical staff and then we take it from there. >> we're here to help you. relax. >> i'm not the bad guy. >> look at me. a nurse will come in here and check you out. everything will be fine. >> don't hurt me, please. >> just relax, all right. relax, man. >> for safety of himself, staff, the institution it's basically a coo

>> yeah, it's certainly a get for donald trump and for paul ryan.hree republicans who were responsible really for getting the votes that they need to pass legislation. so this is a defeat for them. but as i've said all along, needed to work with dems. you have to work with dems swellings republicans. you have to have a broad coalition of support to really best serve the american people. this bill would have looked different anyway if it had passed and gone to the senate. it would have been changed anyway. you have to address medicaid expansion. you can't leave out work poor people and people who are drug addicted and the folks least article to provide for themselves. you have to have a way to take care of those folks. and you have to be talking to democrats about how to get that done. so it's a defeat. >> rick, weigh in here. how realistic that they can actually work together and work with the democrats to get something passed? >> i think it's a little difficult right now. there is hyper partisanship. this bill failed for several reasons. one, it wa

he is want blaming paul ryan at all? there is no subtle campaign to undermine paul ryan? >> i've been in the oval office with the president and with the speaker more in the last couple of days than i ever thought. i've never seen the president for a second try to blame paul ryan for this. >> all right. are you going to repeal and replace obamacare before the end of this year? >> my guess is we will move on. >> you are not touching health care. >> when it fails, and it may be may, and it may be the end of this year, folks will come back and say --? this is no longer a hundred-day priority. >> the president has things he wants to accomplish and he's not going to wait for congress to sit around and do the right thing. when it breaks and chuck, it's going to break, they will come back to us and ask us to take it up again. >> i will leave it there. as tax reform gets under way i'll see you there again soon. mick mulvaney, thanks for coming on. appreciate it. >>> it was tanked by a revolt in the house, but it was facing steep opposition in the senate, senator of utah and charli

he is want blaming paul ryan at all? there is no subtle campaign to undermine paul ryan? >> i've been in the oval office with the president and with the speaker more in the last couple of days than i ever thought. i've never seen the president for a second try to blame paul ryan for this. >> all right. are you going to repeal and replace obamacare before the end of this year? >> my guess is we will move on. >> you are not touching health care. >> when it fails, and it may be may, and it may be the end of this year, folks will come back and say --? this is no longer a hundred-day priority. >> the president has things he wants to accomplish and he's not going to wait for congress to sit around and do the right thing. when it breaks and chuck, it's going to break, they will come back to us and ask us to take it up again. >> i will leave it there. as tax reform gets under way i'll see you there again soon. mick mulvaney, thanks for coming on. appreciate it. >>> it was tanked by a revolt in the house, but it was facing steep opposition in the senate, senator of utah and charli

when would we see somebody like paul manafort? you have to do first is you have to get your information, and raw intelligence and build your case. you only bring in those kind of witnesses at the appropriate time. and we will bring them in. >> is that like a three-month, six-month, outline the time line here. >> what we'll do is have the public hearing and we'll continue to do as much as we can in public, but we have more raw intelligence that we have to go through because when we bring in people like mr. manafort, we want to know not some spectacle. we want to ask the right questions. >> as you know, you brought up adam schiff and he's the ranking democrat in the house intelligence committee. he said there is more than just circumstantial evidence and that there is some -- some evidence of collusion that's going to come out. is that -- >> i'll simply say what i said at the outset. weeks ago when i was first getting started with this and i said this is the most important thing i've ever worked on. with what i know now i doubly bel