paul: and below.vid: so, have you seen him since he is president and have you given any advice? paul: i visited the white house once a few months ago and we chatted a bit about taxes and economic policy. david: you have given a lot of money, raised a lot of money for republicans. do they listen to you? paul: sometimes. david: do they say thank you for your ideas? by the way of having a fundraiser in a week, or they do not do that? paul: that is not the way it goes. their problem, you know, let us be humanists here, their problem is they are subject to all kinds of forces, all kinds of pressures coming from 360 degrees on their compasses, so the right policies and the best ideas are not necessarily -- and many of them listen and many of them are smart, but not necessarily things that make the final cut. but i think it is important for citizens, informed citizens, to try to give assistance. we are among republican activists who actually can, in a relatively un-conflicted level, we are not -- we have les

paul: welcome to the journal editorial report. i'm paul gigot. president trump's chief strategists steve bannon is out just days after he gave an interview to a liberal magazine discussing plans to neutralize rivals inside the administration and contradicting the president on north korea. the embattled bannon who played a key role in 2016 victory had feuded for months with other top aides and on friday the white house released this statement. white house chief of staff john celia listened steve bannon would agree today is steve's last day. we are grateful for his service and wish him the best. let's bring if wall street journal assistantedtorial page editor james freeman and editorial board member mary kissel. mary, the survivor, what happened? >> effectively he was airing president trump to fire him by giving interview to -- paul: american prospect. >> you can't go against the president as policies as big as north korea. you continue proclaim to want to stoke and expect not to be fired. look, paul, some of the president's top aides on both domes

paul: thank you, embassador, appreciate it. >> thank you, paul. paul: when we come back president trump's fury threat with backlash, is his tough talk over the top or just what kim jong un needs to hear, our panel weighs in next. >> the people that were questioning that was it too tough, maybe it wasn't tough enh this lovely lady has a typical airline credit card. so she only earns double miles on purchases she makes from that airline. what'd you earn double miles on, please? ugh. that's unfortunate. there's a better option. the capital one venture card. with venture, you earn unlimited double miles on every purchase, everywhere, every day. not just airline purchases. seems like a no-brainer. what's in your wallet? trust #1 doctor recommended dulcolax. use dulcolax tablets for gentle dependable relief. suppositories for relief in minutes. and dulcoease for comfortable relief of hard stools. dulcolax. designed for dependable relief. ♪ ♪ >> as commander in chief i think he feels necessary to issue a very strong statement directly to north korea but

paul. you meet paul where? >> i met paul at his house in glen cove. >> reporter: jurors heard him tell police his version of what happened the night of the murder. >> so he gets in your red blazer. who's driving, you or him? >> i was driving. we were driving up toward where his residence was, where catherine still lived. >> reporter: sherwood said paul told him to park about a mile away from catherine's house and wait in the car. >> how long is he gone from the car? >> over an hour. >> and what does he say when he gets in the car? he said "it's done." he had said that the chloroform didn't work, "i had to strangle her," and something about hitting the gas line to ignite. >> so you knew the house was on fire? >> yes. >> reporter: as scott sherwood's story played in the courtroom, the prosecutors pointed out how remarkably similar it was to michelle la france's. >> did he say where he strangled her? where in the house. >> in the basement. >> reporter: prosecutors felt these matching stories were powerful but didn

paul: thank you, embassador, appreciate it. >> thank you, paul. paul: when we come back president trump's fury threat with backlash, is his tough talk over the top or just what kim jong un needs to hear, our panel weighs in next. >> the people that were questioning that was it too tough, maybe it wasn't tough enh restlessness... extreme anxiety... pacing... a constant urge to move. if someone you know is suffering from schizophrenia they may also be struggling with akathisia: a common side effect of some schizophrenia medications. learn more at myakathisia.com. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> as commander in chief i think he feels necessary to issue a very strong statement directly to north korea but i think what the president was just reaffirming is the united states has the capability to fully defend itself from any attack and defend our allies and we will do so. so the american people should sleep well tonight. paul: that was secretary of state rex tillerson wednesday reassuring american that is they can sleep well at night despite escalating tensions between the u.s

paul: thank you.n we come back, john kelly sending a clear message in his first week at chief of staff. can the rethink what's possible. rethink your allergy pills. flonase sensimist allergy relief helps block 6 key inflammatory substances with a gentle mist. most allergy pills only block one. and 6 is greater than one. flonase sensimist. ♪ their leadership is instinctive. they're experts in things you haven't heard of - researchers of technologies that one day, you will. some call them the best of the best. some call them veterans. we call them our team. at the lexus golden opportunity tesales event before it ends. choose from the is turbo, es 350 or nx turbo for $299 a month for 36 months if you lease now. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. >> i predict that general kelly will go down in terms of the position of chief of staff, one of the great ever, and we are going to have the time and we are going to work hard and make america great again. paul: president trump setting high expectations for

paul: any response there? delphine metcalf-foster: i could barely hear her, could you repeat what she said? paul: it was a little bit tricky to hear you. unfortunately, she is gone. sorry about that. let's move on to jean from marietta, kansas. can hear her better. she is on the republican line. caller: hi there. what i am wondering is i hear these people saying what a good job the v.a. is doing and things. i worked at the v.a. myself for 17 years. in the hospital that i worked at , it had six operating rooms and they are only using two. and it is because of the lack of doctors. our emergency room was completely shut down due to the lack of doctors. -- i worked on the medical floor. there were two wards. both wards combined had a total of somewhere around 32 to 36 patients. right now, they are limited to 12 rooms. that is all they can use on a medical floor. paul: delphine metcalf-foster, that caller speaks to what he sees as a doctor shortage. is that something you can speak to from your area? delphine metcal

john paul ii said he was hurt by that. john paul ii was fading of parkinson's disease. builbill clark also died of parkinson's disease. bill used to say to me, you know, paul, the good lord gave perkinson's disease to saints, like john paul ii and my father. and now he's gotten around to giving it to sinners like me. that's what clarke said. so for reagan, the body was strong in the mind was gone. for john paul ii, the mind was strong, the body was gone. remember this, guys? it went on for months. on june 4, 2004, president george w. bush went to rome to give the presidential medal of freedom to john paul ii. he was hunched in agony, barely able to mouth words, he thanked bush and he thanked reagan. he said i send my regards to president reagan. .nto mrs. reagan ronald reagan died the next day. june 5. a year later, on april 2, 2005, john paul ii died as well. joining his partner in life, now in death less than a year later. i will wrap up with this final statement. another thing that nobody in the press reported on, june 27, 2011, a special mass is held at st. mary's.

paul: thank you, embassador, appreciate it. >> thank you, paul. paul: when we come back president trump's fury threat with backlash, is his tough talk over the top or just what kim jong un needs to hear, our panel weighs in next. >> the people that were questioning that was it too tough, maybe it wasn't tough enh ♪ it's a highly contagious disease that can be really serious... especially for my precious new grandchild. it's whooping cough. every family member, including those around new babies, should talk to their doctor or pharmacist about getting vaccinated. upeace of mind.s we had a power outage for five days total. we lost a lot of food. we actually filed a claim with usaa to replace that spoiled food. and we really appreciated that we're the webber family and we are usaa members for life. ♪ ♪ >> as commander in chief i think he feels necessary to issue a very strong statement directly to north korea but i think what the president was just reaffirming is the united states has the capability to fully defend itself from any attack and defend ou

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paul manafort and michael flynn. michael flynn's already said he wants to flip. >> yes. >> paul manafort's another guy who is a prime flipable witness for someone above him, and i think that if you look at the team that mueller has put together, you look at the way this investigation is going, they are moving full steam ahead, and they are looking to put equal amounts of pressure on those two guys to get one or both of them to flip as soon as possible. this move is extraordinary on a variety of levels, but that is what it signals to me. we are now moving into the next phase, which is we see what the case is. we're now going to try to go in and lock this case down. they're moving faster than i think anybody thought they would move. >> mieke, what we see now is there was a pre-existing investigation of manafort himself that mueller has taken over, and the range of possible investigative avenues with manafort are enormous, including this possibility of laundering cash through the purchase of new york city apartments. it

the paul i see there is the political paul., that being said, i give paul a lot of credit because this is his second cnn town hall and he has taken very tough questions at both. i remember the first one where he took a very from a dreamer, a d.r.e.a.m. act kid. in this place, again, he took very tough questions. he takes them all. he excels at the policy questions. these where he has got to reconcile the paul ryan i know with speaker paul ryan, willing to fudge a little bit on donald trump and not condemn what is condemnable, for me, is a little painful. >> yeah. cliff, i got to ask you then. with ana having said that, if this kind of moral clarity was so essential and he needed to follow up and add to what jake said, why did the speaker feel comfortable waiting six full days to address what the president did in. >> i can't speak for paul ryan. when he talked about the moralquiv indication or ambigui ambiguity, he was suggesting something else. i think the president is somebody who should listen to his advisers and have his wor

paul: not at all. have some short-term solutions and some transformative ways that we as a nation can get to a better place. brian: but you suggest it is unlikely to happen. paul: i am hopeful. when you look at racial progress in the united states, it is slow as molasses. it is incremental. in some ways, no matter what happens, black folks still seem to be on the bottom. brian: you suggest a white person has only one black friend. paul: that is one of the reason folks have stereotypes about black men. if the only thing i knew about black men is what i see on the evening news, read in the local newspaper, i would be scared of them, too. there are these images constantly of black men committing crime. the reality is most black men have never committed any violent crime. way too many of us have been arrested -- about 50% -- but most of those are for low-level crimes like smoking weed or jumping the turnstile at a subway. so when we look at who ought to be afraid of black men, the number one victims are ot

paul: thanks for calling. tim is calling from beaver falls. good morning. caller: i want to talk about civics education. because i am hearing all the time on the news, even on your program, how bad it is. i'm living in beaver falls and had andkids, who wonderful education, the oldest one is only in the sixth grade, if anybody wants to wonder how much they are learning, they should check out the curriculum there. paul: tell us, what are they learning at that young age in beaver falls? caller: it started in second or third grade and they started learning about some of the founders like an franklin. the thing that struck me is i never missed a question when you guys do civics tests on here. i've always gotten them right. iss year, i am wondering why the election not the first tuesday? i found the answer in a sixth grade homework because that particular page was turned up. when i looked at it it said because it is the first tuesday after the first monday. old, i didn'trs read newspapers for a long time and i didn'

paul manafort's lawyer. so why did jared have to lose his russia lawyer because that lawyer worked at wilmer hale but paul manafort got to keep his russia lawyer who also worked at wilmer hale. it never made any sense. i'm going to figure this out. today we figured it out. today those pieces all either fell into place or fell apart, depending on how you look at it. we started to get reports earlier this evening that paul manafort's legal representation was getting a big shakeup. we actually called paul manafort's attorney at wilmer hale to ask if those reports we were hearing were true. he hung up on us. and then within about an hour it was official. paul manafort has now dropped his lawyer on the russia investigation. reg brown at wilmer hale will no longer be representing paul manafort on russia. instead paul manafort has a new legal team representing him on russia. one of his lead lawyers has a resume and a list of areas of expertise that gives you a very very clear indication of what manafort thinks his

paul: i'm fortunate. i had a wonderful set of parents who raised me in a beautiful, all-black neighborhood in chicago. growing up there, i had a number of experiences with the police, like any black boy does. once i was riding my bike to the library, which was in an all-white neighborhood literally miles from my house, and a cop car rolls up next to me. a white officer says, is that bike yours? i said yes. is that car yours? and i sped off. when i got home, i told my mom what i did, and this was a woman who marched with malcolm x and martin luther king. when she heard what i said to that cop, she spanked me. don't i know what happened to black boys when i talk to the police like that? it's one of those spankings where the parent cries as much as the child. some 30 years later, my mom was absolutely right. what we now know is that during this time, the police in chicago were operating this off-site where they were literally torturing black men. they were attaching electrodes to their private parts. they we

speaker paul ryan is. >> charlie sykes, you know paul ryan well, and i want to get to what he's up to here. i'm trying to think of previous speakers of the house doing events like this and i can count them on one hand. i don't think i use all my fingers. and most speakers of the house nver did events like this. he's got three kids at home as you know in wisconsin he presumably wants to spend as much time with as he possibly can and he's out in doing a campaign-like event. >> lawrence, you're really messing with me, aren't you? because, of course, i would love to see paul ryan step up as the anti-trump. i would love to see him be able to break and say, here is the alternative vision. i don't see that happening in part because jonathan capehart is absolutely right, paul ryan is going to have to prove the republicans govern, which means he's going to have to do the heavy lifting, going to have to do the dirty work, you know, obviously knowing that donald trump will throw him under the bus whenever possible. but the contrast is rather dramatic. on this issue of tax reform, which is basica

paul manafort. he's done an amazing job. >> what it means for an investigation more advanced than anyone knew. and what it means for the president of the united states. >> so to be clear, mr. trump has no financial relationships with any russian oligarchs? >> that's what he said. that's what i said. that's obviously what our position is. >> then the white house confirmed, the president is improvising his north korea threats. >> we were a super power. we are now a hyper power. >> and the growing back lash to the president's plan for opioid abuse. >> the best way to prevent drug addiction is that overdose is to prevent people from abusing drugs in the first place. >> when all in starts. >> a dramatic new chapter in the russia investigation. news of a pre dawn fbi raid at the northern virginia home of president trump's former campaign chairman, paul manafort. sources tell nbc news, the search is tied to the intense investigation into business dealings and fbi relationships, both in the u.s. and abroad.

among them, her married mentor paul solomon. until january 18th, 1989. day that started like any other sunday. >> making phone calls, calling my family. i'm not from new york. my family is out of state, so i was always in touch with my family. that's about it. watching tv. >> you spoke to paul that night? >> i spoke to him for about an hour. at the end of the phone call he invited me to meet him. >> how was his demeanor? >> fine. he was very affectionate. he was happy to see me. we went to a restaurant in the -- one of the holiday inns. they have a restaurant in the bottom part. we just had a nice time. i don't know. just, you know. looking at each other, talking. >> we would love to give you paul solomon's account of that fateful evening, however, he has repeatedly declined our request for an interview. he did, however, sell his story to citadel pictures who made this movie "danger of love" in 1992. the film shows paul solomon heading out and leaving his wife alone in their westchester condo. >> you shouldn't go, you know. >> love you. >> he drives to a

paul: my father. i grew up in a political family, and i probably went to 1000 of his speeches or more. i listen to his interviews, and i was interested in it from a young age. i went to more barbecues and you can imagine, picnics, knocking on doors. i was interested as a kid, came up here in high school as an intern, and worked as an intern in his office as well as in college. then i spend a lot of time were becoming a physician, practiced medicine, but always dabbling in it, always asking for ways to get involved. in durham, when i was in my residency, i asked, how can we do that? so, we started rating legislature, developed a group, and we were on local tv to read because we got active, and nobody was rating state legislature. so i think my dad was a big influence, and i grew up in a political family, and just had a big appetite for it. thanks everybody. [applause] announcer: the national conservative student conference friday.s newt gingrich and kellyanne conway. at live coverage beginning 9:00 a.m

paul, let me start with you.e financial times" is reporting that akmetshin gave testimony to a grand jury in the mueller investigation. the headline is followed by this. renat akmetshin, the former soviet army officer who met senior trump campaign aides last -- at a controversial meeting last year, gave testimony under oath for several hours on friday, august 11th, in a sign that special counsel robert mueller is looking at the 2016 meeting as part of his investigation into links between donald trump's election campaign and russia. paul, this is the thing we keep hearing the mueller investigation is coming back to. because it's evidence of information that the president's team was not forthcoming about initially. >> yeah, so two things. first is again, it's often the cover-up. so here we know that trump created that false narrative about what happened. so we wonder what's he trying to evade. the other is, this was a meeting in which the russians offered information about hillary, which donald junior eagerly accep

paul manafort's spokesman confirming that, yes, fbi agents raided paul manafort's home in virginia, sayingthey executed a search warrant and that mr. manafort has constantly, consistently cooperated with law enforcement and other serious inquiries and did so on this occasion as well. what's interesting about the time of this is, of course, it happened on july 26, just one day before paul manafort went behind closed doors with the senate intelligence committee to talk with them, interview with them and hand over documents. the day after, the same day as this raid, that was when paul manafort was supposed to appear before the senate judiciary committee as part of their foreign agents registration agent hearing. we know that that didn't happen. instead, the committee actually dropped the subpoenas in exchange for cooperation with paul manafort. on the congressional side, we know that paul manafort has been cooperating. in fact, we got word today that paul manafort actually turned over 400 pages of documents to the senate judiciary committee. however, at the same time that these congressional

okay. >> paul, put the gown on. >> paul, i'm trying to me it easy.ou're not going to get hurt. >> sergeant turry has decided to remove dixon from his cell and place him in a restraint chair so he can be safely evaluated by medical staff. >> paul, relax. >> for legal reasons jail policy has to videotape incidents like this one. >> nobody is hurting you. listen. nobody is hurting you. ready? relax. grab him. intake. >> go ahead, go right there. >> nonviolent. >> dixon is back in jail on a parole violation. he had been sentenced to 101 days for third degree theft. he's had prior convictions for theft, as well. >> don't hurt me. >> we have to put him in the restraint chair until he gets calmed down and gets evaluated once again. by the medical staff and then we take it from there. >> we're here to help you. relax. >> i'm not the bad guy. >> look at me. a nurse will come in here and check you out. everything will be fine. >> don't hurt me, please. >> just relax, all right. relax, man. >> for safety of himself, staff, the institution it's basically a cooli

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paul sweeney: they are.od pricing power and to drive or preserve good margins and if they build up their services business. when people looked at a quarter last night, a good quarter. the guidance they gave for the current quarter a little better than expected. to the extent there is a slow down and of the iphone eight, it does not seem to be material. francine: how many apple phones do i own? will there be a drop list car or something with my health? paul sweeney: we see apple and like google put a lot of money into new technology. apple talked about augmented reality. what we are seeing from the huge tech stocks and freeze cash flow stocks a huge cash flow is looking to diversified weather in the cloud or new businesses, services which have more marginal revenue stream. that is what we are seeing some of the big tech companies, apple, facebook redirecting free cash flow. francine: will they -- what do they deal with all of this cash they are sitting on? paul sweeney: i am sure they would love a reprint she

it came out during the election, but paul manafort, who is a good man, also by the way, paul manafort was replaced long before the election took place. he was only there for a short period of time. >> there was discussion of paul manafort who played a limited role for a very limited amount of time. he was hired to oversee the delegates' operation. he was involved with the campaign for a total of just under five months. >> which brings us to our leadoff panel. hallie jackson has agreed to stay up with us, paul butler again, and sam stein who is also an msnbc an itself. welcome to you all. granted, he was only with the campaign a short period of time. what's been the reaction today, and tonight to the trump camp to this story of the raid? >> yeah, listen. i think you are seeing, obviously, the outside legal teams handling these russia questions, and that montage you played of donald trump and sean spicer talking about paul manafort is a revisionist history. he did not play a limited role for a period of time. he played a significant role for a good chunk of critical time when donald tru

paul manafort.ng job. >> what it means for an investigation more advanced than anyone knew. and what it means for the president of the united states. >> so to be clear, mr. trump has no financial relationships with any russian oligarchs? >> that's what he said. that's what i said. that's obviously what our position is. >> then the white house confirmed, the president is improvising his north korea threats. >> we were a super power. we are now a hyper power. >> and the growing back lash to the president's plan for opioid abuse. >> the best way to prevent drug addiction is that overdose is to prevent people from abusing drugs in the first place. >> when all in starts.

. >> which have retired general, paul page, matt whitaker, carl. jon kelly was surprised but not shocked by what the president said yesterday. >> but i think one reason the white house has been eager to say this wasn't scripted, this wasn't vetted, was so the north koreans don't take this seriously, you know, many people in washington, including senators, voters across the country, know that there are times when you take donald trump very seriously, every word, and there are times when you don't. and i think the white house is trying to make the case, you do not dissect every word of this, because if you did -- >> don't take him literally. >> don't take him literally, we have had a lot of debate about this. but this was extemporaneous. don't dissect it too deeply. >> general mattis and rex tillerson all coming out with variations of a more moderate statement. >> they want to try to scale this down, and the problem -- i think that's a terrific strategy for them now, now that the president has kind of messed up. say well he didn't mean that literally

paul: emerging markets funds.: so you are going to say -- paul: it's very early in the process. historically, e.m. currencies don't start to decline until you see imports, the trade balance begin to deteriorate. we are not there yet. until you begin to see too much credit growth, we're not there yet. so rather than trying to time it in terms of periods, i think you sea there are things you look for, a surge in credit and a surge in imports. until you see those you can reasonably confident. joe: you are here in new york, i assume you are meeting clients there and you have been traveling. on this question of sentiment, does it feel like people have moved in or are people skittish and potentially could move in? paul: sentiment is very positive. we've seen very strong in-flows this year, but the questions flick very quickly from e.m. is doomed to is it too late to put your money in, so i keep coming back to this idea, just watch imbalances. as long as trade is in surplus you should be ok. scarlet: so when you look at

paul manafort, he did make a huge mistake.aul manafort should have followed the examples of hillary clinton, debbie wasserman schultz, eric holder, and loretta lynch. paul manafort gets a predawn raid? what if they think he was going to do? what the democrats did in 5 minutes at 5:00 a.m.? probably take a little bit longer, a bleach pit and smashing devices. that takes a long time. they completely ignored this massive democratic scandal. a scandal we've been reporting on a night after night on this program. as we have seen, the media is it ready to literally jump to every conclusion and put paul manafort behind bars. the problem is, this russia collusion which junta has now gone on for 11 months. so far, it hasn't produced much of anything. where's the smoking gun? where is the mountain of evidence that you have been promised, day after day? the hysteria, conspiracy theories? now we have the media cheering on robert mueller who is conflicted and hoping he find something -- literally anything -- also, mitch mcconnell is actuall

>> it's bad thing for paul manafort.dead center of the robert mueller investigation. >> this clearly is not a case where we hear from paul manafort's spokesperson, his attorney, saying we are fully cooperating. they obviously feel something different. >> sean: what happened to innocent until proven guilty? i know it's so outdated and i still believe in it. geraldo rivera, judge jeanine pirro. the predawn raid makes me laugh. geraldo, what did they think? smash everything if they didn't go in and in the early hours? that morning after he hadhi testified the day before didn'tt he make a mistake not following hilary and debbie wasserman schultz and and loretta lynch and eric holder's lead? he could have bleacheded and hammered everything. what identity do that? >> the two scariest words in washington, "predawn" and "raid." the fact that it happens less than 24 hours after heai was cooperating presumably with the senate intelligence committee staffers, it's a clear indication. legally speaking that they were worried that he

watch, it's paul manafort, don't tell anyone. there's a lot going on here. some of these questions have answers we ought to be able to get in the public domain, and we'll try to get to some of them this hour. some of the questions we won't know the answers for a long time. the story continues to develop tonight. politico reporting tonight federal investigators have approached paul manafort's son-in-law in cooperating in the investigation and what politico describes as an effort to increase pressure on paul manafort. federal law enforcement is powerful. it matters who holds the reins of power within that system. federal law enforcement has a logic that is interesting to untangle and follow when it is unraveling dramatic wrongdoing. but covering federal law enforcement actions, very rarely seems weird, right? very rarely takes a bizarre turn nobody was seeing. when it does, it tends to resonate not just for months, but years, tends to resonate into history. rarely since the start of this scandal have we watched a federal law enforcement action that has immedia

cnn has learned that paul manafort's son in law has met with the department of justice investigators within the past few months. why would they need meet with him? >> well, they are exploring the connections between manafort and his financial dealings and russia. just taking a step back, reminding everyone paul manafort was the campaign manager for the trump campaign. not an insignificant figure and subject to a no notice review of documents in his own house and now the investigation is looking at people around him. the son in law is actually about it to be, if not is a former son in law. there was a divorce, i believe this year, which also suggests there might be people willing to talk against each other who might not others with have been willing to speak. this is like -- let's just say this is not an episode of the walton's anymore. this is a high drama stakes going on amongst manafort and of course the trump family. >> interesting. so matthew, we have also learned that manafort has found new legal representation. so is there a significance there? >> well, he did go from a big law