telecom and windstream and paul bash gal he of -- barbagallo of bloomberg. mr. gardner, with a new congress what -- how do you feel about the a rewrite of some of the major telecommunications legislative pieces, 1996 telecom act? do you think it's important treat your business as one big whole, or do you think a piecemeal approach to legislative policy changes is the way to go? >> guest: well, i think '96 was a long time ago, and, um, there are some great parts of the '96 act that i think encourage competition, which is very good for the consumer. so we need to make sure that we pay attention to that. but let's face it, look what's happened with the internet between 1996 and 2012. the whole world's changing. that's what the intercarrier compensation and usf reform, all these issues that we've been talking about -- >> host: but all piece peel? >> guest: i would say -- i don't really think of it that way. this stuff is all happening realtime. i don't see a way to deal with them collectively in one big piece of legislation, but probably better to deal with each of

i see no functional use for it today. >> host: paul barbagallo. last question. >> so -- >> guest: i'd like to, i'd like to answer that as well. >> host: go ahead. >> guest: i would agree with roger. i think the fcc should declare victory in apart from the spectrum, exit the field because we are very competitive. but i would say they're the only group of people i can see who would be helped by reregulation or the segment of washington lawyers and lobbyists who deal in regulation, and that's just rent extraction. so we've won. competition has won. roger and i have both always been in favor of that, as most economists are. so i think it would be absolutely absurd to think of reregulation. >> host: professor hausman, who's the biggest benefactor of the breakup of at&t? >> guest: consumers. when i see my students walking around campus, i always think since they always have cell phones and they're either listening to music or talking, i talk, therefore, i am. so anybody who picks up a cell phone, any moment of the day and uses it to access the internet,

. >> host: paul barbagallo. last question. >> guest: i think the sec should declare victory because we are very competitive. the segment of washington lawyers and lobbyists -- we have one competition. roger and i have always been in favor of that is most economists are. i think it would be absurd to have regulation. >> host: in 10 words or less, professor hausman, who is the victim of the breakup of at&t? >> guest: students. i talked, therefore i am, anyone who picks up the cell phone, any moment of the day, those people that call anyone in the world, i mean tablets as well. they have benefited the most. >> guest: you also have to add in the firm's and people who provide the software and internet-based services that are only made possible by high-speed digital technology, google, facebook, those are also the big beneficiaries. >> host: roger noll, jerry hausman, and paul barbagallo. thank you all so much. >> in a few moments a discussion of the relationship between public and private universities. and then we wi

he's been our guest on "the communicators" along with paul barbagallo of bloomberg. gentlemen, thank you. >> guest: thank you.Ñsr >> next, the interim america dialogue discusses the results of the november 6th elections and implications for latin america. panelists discuss the prospects for change with the obama add enrings' policies involving immigration, trade, drug policy, and economic cooperation. this is about an hour and ten minutes. >> this morning, we're going to have a conversation, a discussion, about the elections, november 6th elections in the united states, and what the results mean for u.s. relations and latin america, and the idea really is to have a good exchange and to engage everybody here to talk about what the significance of the outcome might be. we're going to start with the few opening remarks, and then invite, encourage you to share your insights about what the elections might mean. i'm joined this morning by three of my colleagues from the inter-american dialogue, peter hakim, the president emeritus and senior fellow at the dialogue who can t

he's been our guest on "the communicators" along with paul barbagallo of bloomberg. gentlemen, thank you. >> guest: thank you. >> just ahead, a series of discussions by the world affairs council of america exploring national security issues facing the u.s. up first, former national security adviser steven hadley. he talks about the economic impact on national security. then a panel of former ambassadors discusses relations between the u.s. and pakistan. after that former middle east envoy dennis ross talks about iran, israel and u.s./middle east policy. and later, a look at the aftermath of the arab spring including the ongoing syrian civil war and the challenges facing egypt after its revolution. >> later today, singers and musicians roger daltrey and pete townsend of the who will be at the national press club to talk about the program they co-founded to help improve the lives of teenagers and young adults with cancer. they'll also discuss their plans for a new initiative called teen cancer america. it aims to set up hospitals and medical centers in the strategic ar