joining our conversation to talk about some of those issues is a managing editor at bloomberg bna, paul barbagallo. >> hi, jot. >> guest: morning. >> guest: so one of the issues ctia has been involved with for many years is, as you noted, spectrum policy. right now the fcc is preparing for two major spectrum auctions, is the aws3 auction later this year and the broadcast incentive auction in 2015. given the recent data consumption curves, americans' insatiable appetite for mobile broadband, will these two auctions taken together satisfy demand by carriers for more spectrum? >> guest: they will help. if you go back to when the fcc released the national broadband plan in 2010, they called for 300 megahertz of mobile spectrum over five years and 500 megahertz of spectrum over ten years. these two auctions taken together should represent a very significant step toward those goals, a very nice down payment, if you will, but probably don't get us all the way to where we need to be. the auction that'll happen this fall, the aws3 auction, will bring 65 megahertz of spectrum to market, and the incentive au