one of our political commentators paul begala says conservatives should have known bundy was bad news from the very start. paul is standing by. some high-profile parents apparently not seeing eye to eye when it comes to what's best for their son. debate within a political dynasty over the 2016 presidential race. ♪ ♪ ♪ gigantic, gigantic, gigantic ♪ a big, big love ♪ gigantic, gigantic, gigantic ♪ a big, big love ♪ ♪ >>> returning to the controversy over the rancher bundy who is in a fight with the federal government over grazing fees. his racist remarks have clearly blunted that message, causing many of his supporters to bail out. >> you know, maybe i sinned, maybe i need to ask forgiveness, maybe i don't know what i actually said, but, you know, when you talk about prejudice, we're talking about not being able to exercise what we think and our feelings, we don't have freedom to say what we want. if i call -- if i say black boy or slave, i'm not -- if those people cannot take those kinds of words and not be offensive, then martin luther king hasn't done his job yet. >> let's bring in

i spoke with paul begala about this.r was she looks more like change than jeb bush by the virtue of the fact that she is a woman. and he said so she has an easier time of making that case for change. jeb bush would have that kind of difficulty as he admits. his problem would be more than he might be out of step with his own party. he disagrees with a lot of people in the base on immigration reform, on the question of core curriculum and education. so he might have a more difficult time selling himself to his own party. but then again, hillary clinton is also not a favorite of the liberal base -- of the democratic. >> given how close these two families have become over the years. >> yeah. >> let's say jeb bush is the republican nominee. hillary clinton is the democratic nominee. how does that family connection play out? >> i think that the fondness is real. i think bill clinton is really close to george h.w. bush. but as neil bush points out, these families understand better than anybody that there is friendship and there

joining me now is the editor of "the weekly standard," bill crystal and paul begala, paul at one timeart with you. give me a quick take. how has the u.s. handled this situation to date and what does it need to do going forward? >> first off, the president has answered this aggression frankly much more robustly than his predecessor did when putin moved into georgia. even dick cheney was calling for strong, strong action and nothing happened. he's got to use the tools short of military, even the most hawkish republican there is the state are not saying we should put boots on the ground and fight for eastern ukraine. he's ratcheting up sanctions. rounding up the ollie arcs. i'm for stronger sanctions. i think we can do a lot more. the problem is the we. you have to keep europe united. the more you sanction russian financial interests, the more you punish european and london-based banks which is fine with me. it's not going to be easy to get the -- >> a lot of wall street with their money in russian markets and the u.s. government doing a lot of business with russian contractors of the mi

paul begala has been their close friend more than 20 years. >> do you think bill clinton wants hillarymost, all people who love her. >> do you think he is actively talking her into run? >> believe me, i don't get in the middle of that dynamic. >> reporter: that's between husband and wife. it is more of a mother-son dynamic for the bushes. >> to campaign in the communities. >> he is by far the best qualified man, but no. there are other people out there that are very qualified and we've had enough bushes. >> we are in the waiting room of the hotel, waiting to go to the bush library event, and mom said that, we were all watching jeb standing in the corner. like what's your response to that? but it is not going to effect jeb's decision. if you ask dad, if you ask dad the same question, should jeb run, he would say yes. >> he would? >> yeah, he would say yeah. >> have you asked him? >> i've heard him answer that question. >> reporter: after three decades of bushes and clintons. >> and secretary of state, hillary rodham clinton. >> reporter: with all that political baggage, the families cou