we are joined by reverend paul raushenbush the president and -- we are joined by reverend paul brandeish the president and ceo of interfaith alliance. interfaith alliance along with 30 other faith-based and civil rights groups filed an amicus brief in supreme court case. can you talk about what this means if a private company can discriminate against the lgbtq community, can they put a sign in the wood of a store that says "we don't serve gays, blacks, latinos"? >> thank you for having me on. i'm delighted and frustrated this is the reason we are talking. your entering into a terrible moment where the pandora's box has been opened and we are not sure exactly what it means but what it does mean for sure is that permission has been granted to use religion as a way to discriminate against your fellow people and we are going to see how this happens. it is not in a vacuum. this is happening already went lgbtq people are under attack with religion as a pretext. this gives permission for a lot of bad behavior. what we have to say is we are in a situation where what is legal cannot be considere