also with us, paul butler. butler let me start with you what these federal officers are doing is clearly controversial to say the least, shocking for sure. is it legal? >> it's not legal. president trump earlier tweeted that he wanted the police to dominate protesters and what we're seeing now is his administration sending paramilitary troops to u.s. citizens -- u.s. cities to control u.s. citizens. in portland they're dressed in camouflage type military outfits. one of the many problems is that's also how some of the far right counterprotesters are dressed. and so if you're a peaceful protester and you get pulled into a car an unmarked vehicle by people who don't have badges, they don't say who they are, you don't know whether it's the police or random kidnapper or some of these countermilitary protesters the concern is these federal officers are unaccountable if it's local officers they have to follow the rules of the state. like they can't use tear gas unless it's a riot they can't use impact munitions unles

commander of joint task force katrina, and 37-year veteran of the armed forces and also with us paul butler former federal prosecutor, georgetown school of law professor, and msnbc legal analyst. general, thank you for joining us. let's start with you. we are in the second weekend of clashes between protesters and federal agents in portland. local officials there say deployment of these federal resources is escalating the tension. if that is the case, how does this actually end? >> one thing is both sides need to look -- the white house is accomplishing its political objective which is to highlight law and order by sending federal marshals, border patrol and other federal police in there to protect the courthouse. many will question the tactics they are using because they're not just protecting the courthouse. they are moving off that property and going and basically doing snatch and grab picking people off the street in unmarked vehicles. the other thing they are doing is wearing military uniforms which i totally disagree with and the pentagon has spoken up on this and others. we need to g

with me now is danielle belten, the editor in chief for the root and paul butler is a former federalrosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. their attorney defended their action saying, quote, my clients are completely behind and endorse the message of black lives matter. what they are not capable of doing is em braszing the abject utilization of that noble message we all need to hear over and over and over again as a license to rape, rob, pillage, bowl over all our rights. so danielle, can you support black lives matter and brandish a gun like this at protesters? and can you use this type of language in your own defense? >> i just think this language is absolutely atrocious. i'm from st. louis, missouri. i'm familiar with the area where this incident took place and it's an absolute disaster the fact that he would conflate these two things. the fact that he would compare peaceful protesters to rapist and murders and think that you need to have a semiautomatic rifle and a gun pointed at peaceful protesters who came to this neighborhood. the reality is they are in a neighborhood where you're

just 30 seconds. >>> joining me now is federal prosecutor paul butler. you have so much expertise here. these are swift rebukes to several attempts of abuse of power. that's part of what the federal judge ruled here and why michael cohen is free tonight. what is important for all of us to understand and something that is still very much a hot unfolding story? >> so we have to be clear on where the authority is to send these federal agents to american cities. it is certainly the case that federal officers can protect federal land. that's originally what they were doing in portland. protecting the federal courthouse. but now we see mission creep. what we have, ari, is a situation in which president trump and attorney general barr essentially believe they have their own private army of federal armed agents. and they're sending them to cities with democrat mayors who they don't like. this is not going to end well. >> are you concerned that this is a dry run for even more deployments heading into the election in. >> i'm very concerned. apparently so far, they

i'm joined by msnbc correspondent and paul butler a former federal prosecutor.se transcripts are horrifying. i want to let each of you react to what we heard today. trumaine, i'll start with you. >> you know, it's heartbreaking to see the video and those last minutes of george floyd's life. we saw a snippet. one thing that stood out beyond i can't breathe. a throw-back to eric garner. we watched him die as well. calling for his mother. the realization these were going to be his final moments. tell my mom i love her. tell my kids i rough them. i'm dead. it's heartbreaking but to hear it and see it, a gut punch isn't the right word but it's a gut punch. >> paul i want you to react, too. i'm going to read more of the transcript. this was done as a motion to dismiss the charges against lane for aiding and abetting murder. here is this part of the transcript. should we roll him on his side? chauvin, no, he's staying put where we got himalayan:okay. i just worry about excited dell irium. >> that's why we've got the ambulance coming. thais his thoughts to clear himself

>> joining me is paul butler, a former georgetown law professor.reaction to this new audio uncovered. >> this is a botched drug investigation. the actual target lived miles away from her house and he had been arrested at the time the police executed the search warrant at her house. they described it as a soft search investigation because they didn't think she was a suspect. she wasn't implicated in any crime and moreover there wasn't any risk in executing the search warrant at her apartment. there is a dispute whether sthe announced themselves as officer. both the boyfriend and they say she knocked on the floor. both were saying who is it, who is it. you hear someone knocking on the door. then they hear the battering ram. the boyfriend says it came off its hinges and that's when he shot. he was licensed to carry a gun. the result was that she was shot eight times and no drugs found in the apartment. >> listen to the officer -- >> does that seem a little leading to you, that the investigators seemed to be taking him in that direction? your reaction