>> paul butler, glenn has just reminded us. i remember reading that ruling but i forgot that specific language that it was an abuse of discretion for her to be in that case in the first place. so are we really going to be living with a situation where a judge abuses discretion, abuses the process to enter the case having broken in and grab the case. then gets rewarded with the actual trial of the case because the illegitimate entry of the case actually leaves her in a spot where it ends up with her when it becomes a trial? >> lawrence, whether we'll be in that situation is mainly up to judge cannon. and it's not just she was reversed twice in two months by the very conservative 11th circuit. it's why they reversed, and as he said, interim she explicitly said she was treating trump differently than other targets of search warrants because he is a former president. the court of appeals had to school her, that's not how the rule of law works. look, there are 26 federal trial judges who are eligible to try this case. that includes

how damning is this, paul butler? >> extraordinarily incriminating. the recording is crystal clear in two ways, yasmin. first, the quality of the recording. often when there is audio in a criminal case, it is secretly recorded and you have to kind of strain to understand it. the watergate tapes are an example of that. they're hard to listen to. but here, the jury is going to feel like it is in the room. and the other way the audiotape is crystal clear is incriminating mr. trump. it is an admission of the knowledge and control that prosecutors would have to prove under the espionage act. as you have just read, yasmin, trump literally says, look here, meaning, look at this illegal document, he knows that he possesses and he is not supposed to and he also says that he knows its secrets. as you said, we already knew about this evidence. if necessary, it could have been reconstructed through a transcript or witness testimony at trial. but there is nothing like the jury hearing it with their own ears. >> vaughn, give us the reaction from trump world. >> rep

back with me, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst, paul butler.what he had to say, but this is the first of its kind trial in the u.s., and obviously they're trying to make what they consider to be an important point, some would say a political point, but is this a real case based in the law? >> absolutely. so this is what lawyers call impact litigation, meaning that plaintiffs want to establish precedent that the government has a legal duty to protect citizens from climate change. this would only apply to montana, but lawyers would be put -- lawmakers, that is, would be put on notice about their responsibilities to the planet and to their constituents. so chris, the lawyers will use this trial to present evidence about how climate change has caused wildfires and droughts and floods that have already harmed the people who live in montana. i have to say as a law professor, i love this story. i love these kids for kids for faith in using the legal system to fight for environmental justice. >> my colleague talked to some of those kids, the plaintiffs

me anthony coley and paul butler. all right paul, let's talk about the next steps.aw in new york earlier this year when donald trump was arraigned on state charges? or will it be slightly different? >> pretty much like manhattan. trump, will surrender to authorities and get booked. that includes fingerprints and possibly dna samples. but probably not mugshots and handcuffs. mainly because he will have a secret service detail for the rest of his life. trump will plead not guilty, the judge won't release him before the next court date. simone, the other picture of florida has a rocket docket. a speedy trial act requires trials to have been within 70 days of -- but there's lots of exceptions. that's not gonna happen with donald trump. whether trump is able to delay his trial until after the election, is at this point, up to judge cannon. >> anthony, if you look on the last page of the indictment, it's like a one pager. it says that this case, i'm quoting it, this case will take 21 days for the parties to try. that is something that special counsel's team wrote in. then

i want to bring back paul butler, former federal prosecutor and professor at georgetown school of law, and white house correspondent. you heard some of the details there. is ketanji brown jackson speaking on behalf of a group of voices that has never had representation on this bench before? >> she absolutely is. when justice jackson was confirmed, we knew that she would spend a lot of time writing dissents, pushing back against this hard right ultimate tra -- ultra conservative supreme court, and her opinion today confirms that she was the right woman for the job. it's eloquent and powerful, but most importantly, justice jackson schools the conservatives on the court about the legacy of white supremacy in this country, and how the whole history of fourth amendment is about trying to remedy that horrific legacy. and the point of the 14th amendment was to create equal justice for black people. today's decision actually upends that history, so justice jackson challenges the conservatives on their own terms. she says they're not actually originalists or believers in the rule of law becaus

just the core idea that merrick garland was basically, as paul butler is saying, telling everyone to slow walk. what was your first reaction having observed this entire process over the last two years. >> my very first reaction was to quote the late great denny green. they are who we thought they were you want to crown them, crown them, but they are who we thought they were. what we thought they were, were operating a two-tier system of justice where as they put in the report, they were going to start at the bottom, at the low level people who couldn't defend themselves, like too many prosecutors are all about this using the office, their incredible resources to put the screws to low-level people who can't defend themselves and without having the courage to go after the top level people that from the january 6th case were these maga barbecue sauce idiots to go attack the capitol they didn't want any bit of that i know this is difficult for democrats to hear because we like institutions. we once believed that good people are trying their best but putting your faith into garland, he's

paul butler is back with us. g through this report, it was hard to decide what the most agree just acts were. i mean, every time you thought you'd read the worst, there was another example. as someone in this work, what most stood out to you? >> what the cops did to george floyd, they've done to many other people. the report starkly said that george floyd's murder was enabled by the policies and practices of the minneapolis police department. alicia, there is a horrific accounting of officers violating their badge. a cop drew his gun on a kid who he thought was stealing a burrito. a christmas tree at a station in a black neighborhood was decorated with cups from a fried chicken restaurant. officers put a woman who was suffering a diabetic episode in a straight jacket. she was lying on the street, screaming in pain. when you read this report, you understand why the city of minneapolis has paid more than $70 million in police misconduct settlements, and that's just in the past five years. >> when you talk to justice

tonight, two former federal prosecutors, glenn kirschner, host of the justice matters podcast, and paul butler, professor of law at georgetown university, both msnbc legal analysts. paul, good evening, we'll start with. you don't trump's got a host of things going on right now, but in the case in front of us, in the jackson's case, again, this is just one portion of what jack smith is investigating. a number of things have moved forward. his lawyers that he has, to the extent that he's able to keep them, have gotta get clearances, and they have been told not to do what? this whole idea of not sharing information, what is the prosecution worried about here? >> it's about whether donald trump can be trusted to follow a court order about sensitive information, and of course he cannot be. that's how he picked up these 37 federal charges. the indictment suggests trump uses his access to sensitive material to show off and to settle scores at minimum, the documents that are the subject of his protective order are things like grandeur you testimony, witness interviews financial data, not even classifi

and paul butler is back with me. and most people think it won't, is judge cannon sending a message, no foot dragging, i'm going to keep this thing moving? >> totally, chris. so, no way is this trial happening in august. the defense attorneys can't even look at the key evidence until they get their security clearances and that probably won't happen before the end of july. then extensive motions. so, you have it right, setting this super early, but unrealistic trial date is probably signaling by judge cannon, she at this point will not tolerate delay. he is sent that same signal last week with her order that trump's defense attorneys expedite their security clearances. so, chris, this won't relieve the substantial concerns that prosecutors have to have about this judge. but so far she seems to be on board with jack smith's commitment to a speedy trial. >> governor, even if this trial gets delayed, there is now as we just heard this heightened possibility this is going to be happening sooner rather than later, maybe befo

leonnig in the national reporter for "the washington post," and joining me here at the table is paul butler, a former federal prosecutor, both carol and paul are msnbc contributors. so carol, your papers report that fani willis may use a tool originally created to combat organized crime, rico laws, puts this case at a whole new level potentially. take us through what you know, carol. >> you know, fani willis has said -- or i should say she has confided to confidants and allies that she was considering a rico case for many, many months. a rico case is essentially used most likely for drug cartels, for mobsters, that's where it started was mobsters, especially in new york. and it is federal law and also state law. it happens to be that in georgia, the rico statutes are incredibly broad in addition to less strict, i would say, than federal rico laws. the standards are a little lower than what she can bring into court, and it sounds from our reporters that she is gathering evidence and her team is gathering evidence that sprawls across the nation looking at the broader effort by donald trump an

devlin barrett is national security reporter for "the washington post," and paul butler is a former federal prosecutor, georgetown law professor and an msnbc legal analyst. paul, is the real challenge for trump's team not to explain why he took the documents but why he didn't give them back? >> that's right, and that's really the difference between trump and people like pence and clinton. they cooperated according to the special counsel trump covered up, he obstructed justice, and that's why he's facing these very serious espionage charges. he's trying to make it sound like espionage means he spied. espionage act under this context means he held on to the documents, that he knew didn't belong to them, that if they got into the hands of the wrong person, could undermine national security. >> so devlin, we're hearing from a lot of trump defenders hearing there's a legal double standard at play. i want to play some of that from over the weekend. >> most republicans believe we live in a country where hillary clinton did very similar things and nothing happened to her. >> joe biden wants to give

and paul butler is back with me. so, welcome to you both again. you, get to the rain in just a second. i do want to ask you about this new report from your colleague saying, hours before trump appeared at the miami courthouse and pleaded not guilty, the chairman of that is republican -- he walked in the federal trial in washington, what was that about? >> thank you so much, my colleague reported that they were seeing at the washington court house and it is unclear if that particular federal probe is going to lead to an indictment. just hours before this was going on in washington d.c. and then here we are in this incredible historic moment in miami. donald trump pleading not guilty to these incredible charges. let me tell you a little bit about what it was like in that courtroom because -- >> let me just establish this. you are sitting directly behind secret service, right? jack smith was there, you had i understand a really good view of donald trump. so, talk about his demeanor. >> do you see that hazy feminine blog in the background, that is actu

and former federal prosecutor paul butler, who is a professor at georgetown school of law. let's start with representation. if donald trump does not have a florida barred attorney with him in court, is that a problem? does he need to find one first? could it delay anything? >> it shouldn't delay. in most cases you have to be a member of the actual district bar where you're representing someone who is being prosecuted. but for a first appearance, most judges will allow another attorney to stand in for that person. >> yeah, okay, so let's talk about this judge. i'm going to bring jill in first. let me play you what former attorney general eric holder had to say about judge aileen cannon. >> i'm concerned about her handling this case. based on what she did in the earlier phases of this matter, i'm not sure she has the legal acumen to be a judge in charge of such an important case. >> jill wine banks, 28 u.s. code 455-a states a judge shall disqualify himself or herself in any proceeding in which his or her impartiality might reasonably be questioned. it is her choice whether s

paul butler, brittany, you know, there's going to be another situation, and we're going to be back here be talking about it again, but i really appreciate you talking to us today. >>> an unexpected twist, illegal border crossings now plummeting following the end of title 42. our homeland security correspondent julia ainsley says there's a number of reasons why. she joins me to talk about that and more from the border next. u d more from the border next. tv: try tide power pods with 85% more tide in every pod. who needs that much more tide? (crashing sound) he does. mom: we're having triplets. no, what does that mean? it means you're gonna need more tide. -see? -baby: ah. more likes? more tide. the more adorable? more tide. everyone's gonna need more tide. ♪ you're gonna need- more tide. it's a mess out there. that's why there's 85% more tide in every power pod. moderate to severe eczema still disrupts my skin. despite treatment it disrupts my skin with itch. it disrupts my skin with rash. but now, i can disrupt eczema with rinvoq. rinvoq is not a steroid, topical, or injection. it's one

. >> joining us now, msnbc legal analyst paul butler.former prosecutor. it is good to see you, i want to see what you make of that defense that trump was talking about an imaginary classified document. >> you know, prosecutors will ask which words from trump's mouth is a jury going to believe? what he said in a campaign appearance on fox news, and what his defense attorney is pulling out, or what he apparently confessed to on this audiotape that we learned about this week, where trump admitted that he had a classified materials. so that makes his former defense that he had declassified everything a big lie. and one of the reasons why this evidence is so significant is because this makes mar-a-lago way more than a documents case. this is about a national security. we still don't know how trump used his materials or what he was planning to do with them, and alicia, jack smith seems to be following money by investigating whether trump was trying to illegally enrich himself by selling some of the nation's most secret information to foreign c

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joining us now from capitol hill nbc's garrett haake, also paul butler. garrett, what are the whistle blowers alleging? >> reporter: they allege several things, most broadly that the doj and their superiors at the irs either slow walked elements of the case or stood in the way of charging decisions that would have charged more serious crimes by the u.s. attorney whose a trump appointee who is working on the case. these are whistle blowers testifying under oath before congress. there's a specific data point in this testimony that's been released that's getting a lot of attention. it's purported to be whatsapp messages from hunter biden when his father was the former vice president saying my dad and i are sitting here wondering what's going on with this deal and suggesting he and his father would make this person regret not responding. neither the white house or hunter bide's attorneys have responded to explain what's going on in the whatsapp messages. >> paul, back in join the u.s. attorney investigating hunter biden sent a letter to jim jordan saying, i h

. >> joining me now is paul butler, msnbc legal analyst and former federal prosecutor. f justice get involved? could this case in theory become federal? >> not only in theory but it's got to, joy. the justice department can do a pattern and practice investigation of the akron police department, just like it's doing in minneapolis where the police killed george floyd, and in louisville, where the police killed breonna taylor, and in baltimore, where freddie gray got his spine crushed while he was in police custody. the data shows that when doj and federal courts are looking at police departments, they do better. including killing and beating up fewer people. >> so let's talk about this lawsuit. so when people hear $45 million lawsuit, they go okay, the family will at least be able to exact some sort of justice even though it doesn't bring their loved one back. but i don't think people understand that if they win, it is the taxpayers of ohio who will pay that $45 million. not the police department, it won't come out of the police pension. it doesn't harm the police departm

vance, who is a professor at the university of alabama school of law, and former federal prosecutor paul butlerrofessor at georgetown school of law. i am among the well educated bunch. to you first, lisa. you are in miami. talk about this testimony today. >> it was fascinating because as you know, most of our viewers are not familiar with him as a character in this scenario. he was trump's spokesperson and communications director after he left the white house. he is now the head of a pro-trump superpac called maga inc. he took that position in september. between january of 2021 and september of 2022, taylor budo budowich was with him all the time. as you noted, he made multiple statements with respect to the national archives' efforts to get classified documents and other presidential documents back in their possession, and then when the investigation warped into a criminal one, he was there again making a number of statements to press outlets on behalf of the former president. he even accused the colluding with "the washington post." we know taylor was in there today for around an hour. as you

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brother, prince harry and his brother, prince william, over whether or not to meet diana's former butler . paulnnw— borders. that's a trump legacy. i think, because— borders. that's a trump legacy. i think, because of— borders. that's a trump legacy. i think, because of north tnetee— i think, because of north tnetee te— i think, because of north america is now they have their ttttte— america is now they have their own little trade— america is now they have their own little trade pact in north tnetee.— own little trade pact in north tnetee. se— own little trade pact in north america. so basically this tnent— america. so basically this current subsidies pact gives tnen — current subsidies pact gives them exemption for the eu and them an exemption for the eu and them an exemption for the eu and tne tt— them an exemption for the eu and tne ttt ee— them an exemption for the eu and the uk are worried— them an exemption for the eu and the uk are worried about is, wet.— the uk are worried about is, wet-nennene- the uk are worried about is, well, happens our own the uk are worried about is, well, makers

harry and prince william when it came to whether or not to have a meeting with diana's former butler, paulhe has his thoughts in 2003 compared to where he wrote his memoir 20 years later. now critics of prince harry would say he was way out of his depth. this was not an oprah interview. this was not an oprah interview. this was not an oprah interview. this was not a friendly promotional interview for his memoir. he was questioned under oath by a very experienced barrister who is very hot on details . but a media very hot on details. but a media lawyer was saying yesterday, actually , that this is a civil actually, that this is a civil case. it's a much lower threshold to determine whether or not harry is a victim of unlawful information gathering. and the judge only needs to find on the balance of probabilities , i.e. over 50, if it is more likely than not that prince harry is a victim of unlawful information gathering . so there information gathering. so there could be a situation in a couple of when the judge of weeks time when the judge gives ruling that some of gives his ruling that so

butler, i'll just sarah, stressful. so to come here around to 0, it's in paul's, the u. s. federal reserve holes of hiking interest rates, despite those inflation words and sizes gathering alarm for the funeral. a form as healthy as prime minister, silvio berlusconi. the ally, there has been a soggy stock to the sum of the southern parts of your band. that rain isn't going to stop yet. certainly for central parts of the mediterranean and the south east, where we're going to see more in a way of heavy rain increase over the next few days. that is good news for the south west of spain and portugal. i'm not sure why outlook and it continues to be very dry and hot across pots of scandinavia, the northwest with some records set for june in scotland. now as we move down to the south, what is it west of the rain scorching across the adriatic to places like bosnia and herzegovina as well as correlation and sub yeah, we've got some warnings out for heavy rain there as well as greece with thunder storms expected of a temperature in athens is stop and low the average day on thursday u

reported that princes harry and william had disagreed about whether to confront this man, paul burrell, a former butlerling stories about her. harry was reported to have used an expletive while calling burrell two—faced. his claim — that those words were only used in a voice mail message to william hacked by the newspaper for a story which "sowed discord" between the princes, he said. the newspaper denies that, suggesting that harry's views were widely known in palace circles. so far, his evidence has emphasised the damage done to him from a young age by the press. the newspaper's barrister said yesterday that everyone was sympathetic, but it did not follow that this was all unlawful activity. "of course," said prince harry. "but it's the unlawful means which make it even worse." tom symonds, bbc news, at the high court. we expect prince harry to arrive within the hour to continue giving evidence in court. with me to talk about some of what we saw and heard yesterday is the journalist and radio commentator afua hagan. thank you for talking to us. you were watching everything unfold yesterday, getting d

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reported that princes harry and william had disagreed about whether to confront this man, paul burrell, a former butlero have used an expletive while calling burrell two—faced. his claim that those words were only used in a voicemail message to william hacked by the newspaper for a story which sowed discord between the princes, he said. the newspaper denies that, suggesting that harry's views were widely known in palace circles. so far, his evidence has emphasised the damage done to him from a young age by the press. the newspaper's barrister said yesterday that everyone was sympathetic, but it did not follow that this was all unlawful activity. "of course," said prince harry. "but it's the unlawful means which make it even worse." tom symonds, bbc news at the high court. we're joined now byjim waterson, media editor at the guardian and also by jack royston, chief royal correspondent at newsweek. good morning to both of you. jim, can we start with you? you were there in court yesterday, if we can get a sense of what it was like in that courtroom as prince harry gives his evidence. i that courtroom as p

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paul hahnkins, director for salvage operation with the u.s. navy supervisor of salvage. >> hello, karl heartsfeld. >> good afternoon, rich, exchange officer serving on the submarines at norfolk, virginia. >> good afternoon, lieutenant commander christie butler, working closely with captain frederick, search and rescue coordinator. [inaudible] >> so a couple things. one, when you are in the middle of a search and rescue case you always have hope. that's why we are doing what we do. with respect to the noises specifically, we don't know what they are to be frank with you. the p3 detected noises, that's why they are up there, doing what they are doing, that's why they put sonar buoys in the water. what i can tell you is we are searching in the area where theis no -- where the noises are detected, and the intent to search in the areas where the noise were detected, and continuing to be detected and put additional rovs in the last known area where the search was taken place. >> regular 30-minute intervals as reported. >> i had not heard 30-minute -- when i can tell you. so, i am not a trained ear for underwater aquatics. that's why we have a team of experts that are analyzing the data. the data was sent immediately to the navy last night and it