let's get to paul callan from new york, one of our legal analysts. s, criminal defense attorney in philadelphia. so, paul, first to you. we've been listening to o.j. simpson. what do you think of his demeanor and how he has explained his story so far? he seemed kind of emotional about it really. >> well, i think his demeanor is very good. he's actually very low key. and he's sounding very reasonable. and he's basically trying to establish that the material that was stolen allegedly in this robbery was his own personal stuff. of course what he's trying to prove here, suzanne, is that this is not the material that was under court order as owed him doing that civil litigants to the $3.5 million suit in california. remember, all of his assets had been ordered to be turned over to the plaintiffs. he said this stuff wasn't part of that. it was personal family stuff i wanted to recover. trying to show he really didn't have an economic stake in this. it was just personal property involved. >> and, danny, let's bring you in here. he appealed this verdict origi

cnn legal contributor paul callan joining me now. what do you think, paul?you see murder charges being filed here, and if they are, do you think there is a chance for a successful case to be made? >> i think this is the most interesting question in the entire case, breanna. ohio is one of the few states that has a law that says if you force somebody to abort or you force a woman to have a miscarriage, the death of that fetus is murder, and under certain circumstances and those circumstances appear to be present in the fact pattern here, that can be an aggravated murder for which you can get the death penalty. the real issue though is how do you prove it? michelle knight may have been pregnant five times and miscarried five times how do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt she was pregnant because she wasn't formally diagnosed and how do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt she miscarried. the question that judges would look at ultimately is, is a woman's subjective belief she is pregnant sufficient as well as a woman's subjective belief that she has miscarried

cnn legal contributor paul callan is live in new york. what happens next?, very unusual setup, a couple of other states have similar ones but very, very rare. in arizona if the first jury can't agree on the death penalty they are dismissed and impanel and start all over again to decide the penalty, so a new jury is going to be sworn. you could imagine how difficult that's going to be, given all the publicity regarding the case and then they are going to make a recommendation about the death penalty. now, if they do not reach an agreement, the second jury, then she gets life. you don't get a third shot under arizona law but prosecutors get two tries. >> so this trial, this case has been all over television, all over the internet for years, the last case that i remember much like this one was the casey anthony trial and when they had to impanel the jury, they had to go to another county because of all the attention. how does this judge find a jury that has not been tainted by all the media attention in maricopa? >> extremely difficult, and you know it's not j

paul callan, hold for a moment.t to ask you about a question about this but not before a quick update about cleveland. the motorcade carrying gina dejesus, they've got several vehicles apparently not far away. i'm definitely keeping the live eye as this happens. and at the same time on verdict watch on jodi arias. paul callan, a lot of people jump to a conclusion at four days, my, this is going on a long time. but in a four-month case, the number of trial days, the number of exhibits and the gravity of the charge they're facing here, first-degree murder carrying with it a death penalty, this is not long at all. >> no, it's not long. and the jury's got an awful lot to consider. somebody's life is at stake. someone's life has been lost. the defendant is facing potential death penalty in this case. so i'm not surprised. and, you know, what lawyers look at who have tried murder cases in situations like this is what's going on in the jury room? are alliances being formed? that's what you want to look at. you want to try

so it's being used, the case, to shut down clinics. >> tara murtha and paul callan, thanks so much. >>> still ahead, the president comments on the firestorm of controversy that has erupted after the leaking of state department e-mails about the benghazi attack. but did he just throw more fuel upon that fire? >>> and coming up, we'll have a rare interview with senator al franken. he rarely does national interviews so what's getting him to speak out now? well, a conflict of interest that he says comes at the consumers' expense. we'll tell you what it could mean for you and your retirement. that's coming up next on "the lead." >>> welcome back to the lead. another national lead. distrust of big government writ large and of the internal revenue service more specifically. those are cornerstones of the tea party ethose. now it looks as athough the irs went and proved their point for them. and president? well, he says he did not know the irs was singling out conservative groups until the news broke. >> i first learned of it from the same news reports that i think most people learned about th

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i'm joined by paul callan, a cnn legal analyst. ust resumed their deliberations there. it's not often if ever you aren't sure if the defendant will beg for her life or for death. what's your take? >> well, it's highly unprecedented although we have to think back to gary gilmore in 1977. i don't know if you remember that one, wolf, but he was convicted in utah of multiple homicide. and he wanted to be killed by the firing squad. and he refused to appeal his cases. he's famous for his last words of "let's do it" before the firing squad opened fire on him and killed him. so people have asked for the death penalty in the past. and i think she's going to get on the witness stand and ask for the death penalty. she said it a year ago. she said it most recently to that affiliate post-conviction. sounds to me like she's going to ask for the death penalty. now, is that because she wants it or because she's manipulating the jury into thinking, well, if that's what she wants, let's give her life because obviously life is a greater punishment to

paul callan.untries like australia, the basic rule is if someone is charged or you have a reasonable belief they are about to be charged, you can no longer say anything about the case, the history of the defendant or whatever, only report what is said in court. >> and how do they control that though? seems like that would be something very, very difficult to control. >> if you did it, you would be holed up in court on contempt of court and quite likely arrested. you pull up somebody's prior past, girlfriends or whatever and that gets into a jury's mind, that's seen as being prejudicial. >> it's very murky because they don't allow the video of the guy with the meat cleaver overseas, but it's not to say they can't see it on some sort of american television station that is pumped into their country. >> true, the internet changed all that. that's a good point. >>> the job market in the united states might be struggling, but unemployment in the european union actually hitting a record high. spain one o

i want to back to paul callan and danny sevilis.iquitous motion comes up in court and that is prejudicial versus problativeprobative? >> why can't they bring out the trayvon martin had bad things in his past? i don't know what bad things they are going to say he did be, but that is what they are trying to prove to say, he's a bad guy and he assaulted zimmerman. it's not allowed because the law says self-defense is what you perceived and saw that night. obviously, zimmerman didn't know anything about trayvon martin's past. the only relevant thing is what happened that night, what did zimmerman see trayvon martin do. doesn't matter what he stored in his locker room in miami. >> if it's about the perception that george zimmerman made in an instant, don't all of those things come into the perception that you may be putting across to someone you come in contact with, meaning if you talk smack, if you wear gold teeth, if you've done these things, what is the likelihood that is how you present yourself to a stranger? >> you know, isn't it

i am going to now go to paul callan who is a cnn legal analyst. i want to ask him what -- is paul there? >> yes. yes i am. >> what are you going to be looking for in seven minutes when the verdict is read? what most interests you? >> well, the first thing we look at is the expression on the jurors' faces as they enter the courtroom. traditionally they don't look directly at the defendant if they have convicted a defendant. that doesn't always happen. but that's kind of what i've seen in a lot of murder cases i've been involved with. the second thing i think about when i look at this case, jake, is this case has gone in so strong, it was such a relentless prosecution by juan martinez, the prosecutor, that it was like watching a woman get run over by a truck repeatedly. the evidence against jodi arias is so strong. and her defense is such a, really, a strange defense that the jury would have to accept. so i think most people will be stunned if there is an acquittal in the case. frankly, on the issue of whether it's first degree or second-degree murde

joining me now is cnn legal analyst paul callan. good morning.gators are retrieving past phone conversations, that can be a scary thought really for all of us, but can anything they learn be used in court? >> well, you know, the technology appears to be there to retrieve a lot of information including probably cell phone, telephone conversations. we've seen reports that this stuff is monitored all over the world by u.s. intelligence agencies but when you get to the united states, admissibility in court it's a different issue. in a criminal case generally a warrant has to be issued by a judge to permit the monitoring of a cell phone conversation or a telephone conversation of any kind, and you have to have probable cause to do that. now, they may have gone to a judge and the judge may have issued such a warrant. her connection to a husband who was involved in this bombing would provide probable cause for a warrant. the bigger question, can they do this without a warrant because possibly she's connected to a foreign agency or a foreign power like a

i bring in paul callan, our legal expert in new york, a defense attorney, former prosecutor and cnn legalst and represented the estate of nicole brown simpson in the wrongful death suit that followed o.j.'s acquittal in the murder trial. full disclosure you've been following o.j. and the cases for quite some time. simpson is asking the judge to basically toss out his conviction, grant him a new trial. what is the likelihood of that? >> i don't think there's much of a chance here and i'll tell you why, poppy. simpson got convicted of this robbery/kidnapping charge in vegas and he took an appeal that went all the way to the nevada supreme court. they upheld the conviction. they found it was a legitimate conviction, and this sort of is a last-minute plea saying you know, my attorney gave me bad advice, take a second look at it. so the court said we'll give you a hearing on it. i don't think he has much of a chance. >> he's saying galanter didn't notify him of a plea deal and galanter testified yesterday he did inform o.j. of that. this is a he said/he said battle. >> there's an interesting b

joining me now, paul callan, sonny hostin and martin gerigos, criminal defense attorney. so you all can tell everybody single side of this. let me just start off, though, with sonny. were you surprised by this when you look at the length of the trial, the length of deliberation, how quickly they unanimously decided the aggravator, that it was cruel. >> i was not surprise ds. i think when you have a defendant that gets on the witness stand for 18 days and you get the opportunity to ask her over 200 questions rjsand i'm just not that surprised. >> mark, you've pointed out that whether the jury hated her or not, they were able to ask questions during this incredibly long trial. they started to call her by her first name? >> yes, they first-named her repeatedly during those questions. they were extremely prosecution oriented. i can't tell you how many times i've been slapped down by a judge for first-naming my client. and number two, most of the studies show who the victim is as to whether the death penalty is administered. it's administered disproportionately to when there i

paul callan one of our cnn legal analysts joining us now. hostin inside the courthouse. look at the media there. so many people have been following the trial in philadelphia. so, paul, we we sit and wait for this verdict to come out to us, what are just some of your first initial thoughts. >> one of the more interesting aspects of the case has been frankly the immediate coverage or it or lack of media coverage. we've had some reporters here at cnn who have been covering it but a lot of the media sort of looked the other way. i think in part because this case has been -- it's such a graphic and horrible case in terms of the description of the deaths that people have a hard time even looking at it, looking at the facts to have case. you know, there's a charge that four newborn infants were murdered really as a result of late term abortions and early term abortions being performed. there's -- the other very, very important count, there's a third-degree murder count involving the death of a 41-year-old mother who received allegedly lethal doses

paul callan, legal analyst. i picture of the alleged victims at home watching this on television. i wonder what they think seeing him on television with his head down like that? >> you have to think after ten years of captivity, held in slifslif slavery in the basement in chains, which are the allegations of the case. they must is have a great feeling of relief that all of it is finally over. we'll find out psychologically how they were affected by this through the years and when you are held captive that long, the psychological impact is tremendous. we've seen it with prisoners of war and stockholm syndrome and a butch bunch of other things that psychologists talk about. we can be sure what they are suffering from is very serious. >> i was reading my facebook page. how can you be accused of stealing someone's youth, raping them repeatedly. forcibly impregnating them, forcibly aborting their babies and not face the death penalty? i mean, i know that he won't. >> it's a great question, carol, and i think one of the reasons that the entire country is focused on this case and much of

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paul callan, thank you for that.re minutes away from day two of deliberations in jodi arias's murder trial, the marathon case. today could be a day we get a verdict. this is day 58 by our calendar. if she is convicted of first degree murder there's a big, big process that comes next and our team of experts is standing by to tell you exactly what will happen. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004. vietnam in 1972. [ all ] fort benning, georgia in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve military members, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. oh, hi thehey!ill. are you in town for another meeting? yup, i brought my a-team. business trips add up to family time. this is my family. this is joe. hi joe! hi there! earn a ton of extra hhonors points with the daily grand promotion and fe

out front tonight, jane weintraub and paul callan.i played a short clip of what jodi arias said today. she gave an interview saying, i want the death penalty. i don't want life. here she is. >> long givity runs in my family. i'm pretty healthy, i don't smoke, and i would probably live a long time. so that's not something i'm looking forward to. i said years ago i would rather get death than life, that still is true today. i believe death is the ultimate freedom. so 50id rather just have my freedom as soon as i can get it. >> so you're saying you prefer the death penalty to being in prison for life? >> yes. >> do you believe letter? >> it's just astounding that she's out giving television interviews the day she's convicted of this horrific crime. it's so manipulative, because people who oppose the death penalty, the argument they always make is, you know what's worse, making them go to prison for the rest of their life without parole. she gives this statement and says, the worst thing for me would be if you don't give me the death pena

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joined by former prosecutor wendy murphy and cnn legal analyst paul callan. k case, what a lot of people are calling this. a huge bond. paul, i'll begin with you. he'll never be able to pay the bond. >> you can never say never. with bonds, what happens you go to a bail bondsman and if you have adequate collateral, in most places you only have to put up 10% or 15% of the cash value of the bond, arguably if it was $2 million, he would have to put up $200,000 and his house as collateral. having looked at that house, garbage bags covering the windows, i don't think that's adequate for a $2 million bond, much less $6 million this is functional equivalent of no bail. i think it's safe to say he has been remanded until trial. there will be another hearing later on if he he wants. >> the details of the house, i believe it was for $14,000, and we heard there that he is on unemployment benefit now as well. so, wendy, what do you make about what just happened and what will happen next? >>> this was a formality, primarily meant to ensure his rights are protected. the most

. >> paul callan, i appreciate your legal perspective here. one of our cnn legal analysts paul callan, thank you so much. again, just a reminder here in cleveland we will be getting that cleveland police press conference at 5:00 eastern time awaiting the news that could be made there in just about an hour from now. also this huge, huge story out of phoenix, arizona. that verdict will be read in half an hour from now. we have cruise e crews all over stories for now. let me toss things to my colleague, jake tapper in washington. "the lead" starts now. >>> good afternoon. i'm jake tapper. this is a live picture of the maricopa county courthouse in phoenix, arizona. jurors have reached a verdict in the jodi arias murder case. we expect that verdict to be read at 4:30 p.m. eastern, 1:30 pacific. you will see it live right here on cnn. we already know that jodi arias killed her on again/off again boyfriend travis alexander back in 2008. that is not in dispute. what we're waiting to hear a half hour from here is what the jury will or will not convict

paul callan is joining us from new york. he's one of our legal analysts. also danny cevallos is joining us, a criminal defense attorney in philadelphia. paul, first to you. as you know, o.j. simpson is blaming his own lawyer for losing this case four years ago. and he's now spending 33 years in jail. he didn't testify then, so why is he testifying now? >> well, it's very interesting. the only time he actually had testified, it was a very minor case of road rage case in florida. that's where he met yale galanter, who is now his personal attorney and plays a major part in this case. he's saying that galanter basically was orchestrating his defense in the robbery case, told him not to take the witness stand, there are other allegations that galanter was making a lot of money and he didn't share enough of the money with the local las vegas council to give o.j. simpson a fair defense. and finally, o.j. is saying that galanter basically told him that because he was retrieving property, personal property that actually belonged to o.j. simpson, it would not be a ro

but it's highly unlikely, cording to paul callan. let's take a listen. >> the question, and it's really an astounding question when you consider it is, does a rapist have parental rights with the child who is conceived through the rape. there's been some debate about this throughout the united states. two-thirds of america's states have no laws about whether a rapist has rights when a child is born from the rape. so the question is, could a judge look at this and say, it's not written specifically in the statute, but he shouldn't benefit from his crime. which in effect he would be by not facing the kidnapping charges. >> so really, unusual situation we're looking at. >> it is very bizarre. pam brown, thank you for that report. the neighbor who has been hailed as a hero in this case, charles ramsey, i bet you've probably heard about him. well, he's talking about what happened here on seymour avenue that night. he's the guest on a radio show in washington, d.c. we are going to bring you that sound bite a little later. that was charles

want to bring in ashleigh banfield live outside the courthouse as well as our cnn legal analyst paul callannew york. ashleigh, i want to start with you. what do you make of what she said? do you think it's going to sway the jury now that they have an apology, not so much an apology? >> let me start by saying how bizarre this entire process has been. suzanne, i have never once in 25 years of doing this job covered a trial in which a defendant has appealed to the media in the middle of the trial. once after being found guilty and once after only an hour and a half of deliberations by this jury. and changed her story even to the media. the whole thing is so circus like and bizarre. my fear legally speaking is that this is one big fat appeal in the making. that aside this jury still has a lot of work ahead of them. they have to go over all the things this young woman said to them in yet, again, a very bizarre powerpoint presentation complete with a clicker and props. i mean, she brought out a t-shirt and put it in front of the jury saying survivor and saying this is one of the things that shoul

i want to bring back legal analyst paul callan, who is a teacher of law as well. expertise is in cases involving professional liability. also with us, another favorite hln legal analyst and defense attorney joey jackson who has loads of experience defending clients under theglary of cameras. first to you, paul, i have to remind everybody, we are in the plaintiff's case, we sort of think at this moment, yikes, this case is over, it's not, isn't it? >> always the voice of reason, ashleigh. you know, it's far from over. it's one tragedy after another when you look at meekal jackson's life. i think ultimately what we have to remember is the jury is going to be looking at the concert promoter, aeg, what's their responsibility here? they're not his parents. they're not his relatives or his family. they hire him to do some concerts. and is it their job to make sure he is eating peanut butter sandwiches and hamburgers? their defense ul matly is, hey, he's a essential pro. it's not our job to do this. so as embarrassing as these e-mails are, in the end, his lawyers will sa

paul callan, sunny hosten, mark nejame, thank you all so much.>>> still to come, an oregon teenager under arrest suspected of planning what he hoped would be bigger than columbine. his mother says there's a medical condition that explains everything. >>> a manhunt in kentucky for the killer behind the ambush of a police officer, the officer's widow shares her emotional story tonight. >>> and a newborn baby found alive inside this sewer pope after it was flushed down the toilet. he's okay. we'll show you the images of this dramatic rescue. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004. vietnam in 1972. [ all ] fort benning, georgia in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve military members, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. do you want the long or the short answer? long i guess. chevy is having a great-deal- on

i'm going to bring in our contributor paul callan.re were a lot of people who watched that live they were astounded. people said they were astounded that it was such a matter of fact presentation from a woman who effectively should have been begging for mercy. instead, presented a power point complete with props, pictures and a t-shirt. how do you assess what you saw happen in the courtroom yesterday? >> well, it was jodi arias being jodi arias. those who saw her testify 17, 18 days on the stand, saw someone who is cold, calculated, deliberate. flashes of intelligent. very bright. a planner. and in the end, when you expect an emotional plea for life, to see her being cold and calculating, and, you know, she kind of reeled off all of the things that she had just found out about prison. and why prison would be a good place for her. you know, not the kind of thing you want to say to a jury that's deliberating on death. she holds up this survivor t-shirt which, you know, reminds the jury that her claim was she was a victim of domestic abu

paul callan is joining us from new york to talk about it. i was just told you got your starbucks coffee cup there. >> yes. field research, suzanne. i'm ready. >> okay, good. put a tip in the tip jar. >> i did. >> how much did you put in? i'm putting you on the spot. >> this is excessive, but i left a dollar because i thought i could bill it back to cnn ultimately. so why not? >> oh, okay. reimbursement, kind of cheap there, paul. what is this all about? why is the new york appeals court looking at this? >> well, in a sense to boil it all down, suzanne, it's the lawyers have figured out a way to get their hand in the tip jar. this is typical of class action lawsuits that we've seen across the country brought on behalf of various classes of employees. and lawyers who take the case, they put together an enormous class of thousands of employees and then they get a third of the recovery, they get huge fees. and then the employee may or may not benefit in a substantial way. so what's happening at starbucks? at starbucks people who buy coffee there,

. >> paul callan weighing in on the sad story of the utah soccer referee who has died after being punchedteenaged player. >>> in georgia, police are asking for help with the mysterious case of a missing 19-year-old college student. police say he has been missing from the cochran campus of middle georgia state campus for more than a week. he had breakfast with his roommate on april 25th. later walked out of the dorm and has not been seen or heard from since. they say he left behind all his belonging, his phone, and he does not own a car. police have searched door to door near the campus and they're looking in atlanta as well where he is from. >>> let's head overseas right now. two rockets have hit the golan heights, which a strategically important mountainous region between israel and syria. israel's defense says the rockets were fired erroneously as a byproduct of syria's internal conflict. but it comes amid escalating tensions between the two countries after syria was hit with massive air strikes over the weekend. a u.s. official confirms the attackses weractionacks were la. it killed 42

. >> and paul callan told me he does believe that particular charge will be dropped but prosecutors haveharges they're exploring in addition to what he faces with the rape and kidnapping charges so they'll have enough to work with there and it's just too difficult to prove this charge is what he's saying. >> sure. it sort of shows you what an unprecedented case this is both in the facts of the case and also in what is going to happen in the sort of legal arena that will come after this. >> right. lot of people will be looking at the case of jaycee dugard. she had two children and, but her, you know, her kidnaper did plead guilty to kidnapping and rape charges so i think that's something we can look at as a precedent for this. >> pam brown here in cleveland with me, thank you very much. of course that road to recovery is likely painful for these kidnap victims. no one knows that better than colleen stan. she was abducted and kept in a box for seven years. her incredible story of survival and hope will amaze you. >>> let's head back to atlanta and victor blackwell is standing by with some

here to help, wendy murphy and paul callan. welcome to you both. thanks for being here. have to ask you since you won a civil case against simpson, does it seem unreal that he'll be back in a courtroom? >> he's like a migraine headache, he keeps recurring. and he was unjustly acquitted in my opinion in the criminal trial. he was absolutely guilty of murdering his wife and slaughtering ron goldman. we proved it in the civil trial. and the jury awarded a $35 million verdict. and he was then brought to justice finally in nevada andte years. now he's going after his own attorney to say galanter is responsible. somebody else is always responsible for o.j. simpson's misconduct. >> lawyers are calling this a hail mary motion which says to me along with what paul just said that o.j. doesn't have a chance in haitis. >> yeah, generally speaking any new trial motion filed this late, remember, he's already had his straight appeals, if you will, rejected by all the courts that he could have gone to including the supreme court. so when you file a new trial motion after you've already

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attorney paul callan who you saw in the piece says new york does have a criminal statute to protect peopleual purposes. about you that clearly is not involved in this situation. paul says, a subject could sue if their face was identifiable, but he doesn't even think that's applicable in this case. >> it still feels like such an invasion of privacy. >> someone asked me, imagine the photos that he didn't sell. imagine the pictures that he might have taken or what he actually saw. kind of creepy, right? >> it is very creepy. >>> all right. 44 minutes past the hour. a pizza delivery man is accused of making really special deliveries -- cocaine. new york police say 45-year-old ra moment rodriguez made 19 sales to an undercover officer in full papa john's gear. in one case, they say a pizza box contained a kilo of cocaine for $27,500. another man identified as jonathan martinez also face drug charges, police say rodriguez set up a meeting for martinez with an undercover officer. >>> getting caught with his hand in a cookie jar just made a suburban chicago man $4.8 million richer. ricardo cerezo

paul callan is a cnn legal analyst also joining us, a criminal defense attorney former prosecutor. you did hear them say that the suspect ariel castro, paul, had been read his miranda rights. i didn't hear whether or not he has an attorney, court-appointed attorney. did you hear anything along the lines of whether he has a lawyer already? >> i did not hear any mention of a lawyer at this point. it may very well be that he doesn't and it won't be until his first court appearance that an attorney would stand up on the case. that tends to be the way these things usually play out when the defendant arrives in court they appoint the lawyer and that's the first appearance of the attorney. >> so whatever he said, as long as they read him his miranda rights and told him he has a right to remain silent, and he has a right to an attorney, whatever he said, that can be used as evidence potentially against him? >> oh, absolutely. and what people have to understand is that simply because you're advised of your right to counsel, that doesn't mean you're going to exercise it. as a matter of fact,

let's bring in cnn legal eagles here, we have one analyst paul callan, criminal defense attorney jamior being here. this situation of analysis, aggravating face ining factors,g factors. the simple version is, they'll look at what is before them and decide if it's worthy of death. paul, i'll start with you, only one juror, if it has to be unanimous, decides she doesn't get the death penalty and they move on to life, 25 years, porn possibility of parole, that the judge decides. would you say the odds are in favor of arias not getting the death penalty? >> i would say she's on a fast road to the death penalty at this point. with the jury coming back yesterday in i think slightly less than two hours finding that this was an exceptional cruelty case triggering this death penalty hearing, that's highly suggestive that all of the jurors think, at least they're leaning toward it as a death penalty case. because you have to consider, chris, if one juror didn't want the death penalty, that juror could have chosen a battle yesterday and fought back. two hours they come back and say, let's go to

paul callan and sunny hostin, two of the best in the business.r the first time from ariel castro's mother. she cries, apologizes, and reveals she met the little girl castro apparently fathered by one of his victims. listen to this. [ speaking spanish ] >> imagine being the mother of ariel castro. wow. we're also getting more information right now on the victims. up next, you're going to hear from a woman who met with one of the victims, gina dejesus just today. you'll hear how she's doing. it's a fascinating story. we're going back to cleveland, that's coming up. >>> the life-or-death decision for jodi arias, now postponed. we have details of the surprise twist today in the trial. [ male announcer ] with free package pickup from the united states postal service a budding artist can ship like a big business. just go online to pay, print and have your packages picked up for free. we'll do the rest. ♪ we'll do the rest. welwhere new york state is... investing one billion dollars to attract and grow business. where companies like geico are investing