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we begin this hour with ken dilanian, carol linnick and paul charlton., there have been so many developments in the last 24 hours. that court filing was revealing. we had and other lawyers had been caveating that just because there was a search at mar-a-lago could mean they just wanted the stuff back. they wanted the national security documents to be in a secure place. no legal jeopardy for the president. now we know there's a criminal investigation and they want to keep the affidavit -- the underlying affidavit secret because they have confidential sources and it would compromise the investigation. >> that's right, andrea. we talked sunday on "meet the press" about the possibilities. we can exclude the one. they just want their documents back and that's the end of it. because this filing by the justice department says that unsealing this affidavit would cause irreparable damage to their investigation, would reveal witnesses that they have been talking to, investigative techniques. it would provide a road map to their investigation. this is an ongoing, v

joining me now, ken dilanian, phil rucker, paul charlton and michael beschloss. welcome all. ken, give us the latest -- this is being updated by our reporting team minute by minute. talk to me about what justice is doing as we await these documents to be released. >> reporter: as far as we can tell, the justice department has not filed its formal notice asking that these documents be unsealed to the judge, which is due by 3:00 p.m. that could happen at any time. because the trump team is saying they're not opposing the release of the documents, we feel like the release could happen imminently. it's not clear why the trump team can't release them on their own. it's a really interesting decision that the justice department has made essentially to say to the trump side, put up or shut up. you have been saying this search was unfair, improper. you have these documents in your possession. we are asking the judge to unseal them. it's important to note that the justice department is not asking to unseal the most interesting part, the affidavit for probable cause. that's the justific

attorney paul charlton, phil rucker and ashley parker., within the footnotes of the filing, there's a note the investigation is not simply about efforts to recover improperly retained presidential records. where do we stand at this hour? >> that is the sum total, the most impactful information we got from this filing is that this isn't just an investigation about classified documents, miss handling of secrets. this is about lies, deceit and potential obstruction of justice. that's what this filing makes clear. we didn't have to about here. if they will given classified documents back, none of this would have happened. now we see from the justice department that they believe they were lied to. a lawyer signed a document. they don't suggest where that lawyer got the information or whether they think it was donald trump who lied or the lawyer who lied. the lawyer signed a document saying as of june when they served a grand jury subpoena and went down there, that the trump side turned over all classified documents that were at mar-a-lago. the