but that doesn't take away - from the astonishing legacy that paul dacre left behind. are not necessarily powerful or part of the establishment. are benefit cheats, for instance, as fair game as matt hancock? they're in a different - category, but i think anyone who cheats the system — - or, indeed, who breaks the law — risks being held to account - by the standards that apply both in public life and in- personal responsibility. free they're obviously of a different magnitude of offence, - and hopefully we will balance that out in the way the stories - are presented in the paper. victoria, the sun's not averse to a bit of kicking down, is it? i'm not sure that's entirely fair. i think i edit the paper in a different way to perhaps some of my predecessors. i make it my conscious decision to work with people on stories a lot of the time, and, you know, it's... i have brilliant relationships with many celebrities and their agents, and i think we do a lot... we've turned into a very positive force for good. i mean, so many of the campaigns we've done during the pandemic ha