please turnoff to cellphones and about paul david pope and rachel sklar. [applause] >> host: it is true i don't have much time but this book was so hard to put down and so engrossing and so fun i had to remind myself it was nonfiction because it reminded me, you know, when in your formative reading stages you read the epic family saga and i was really, really into these family sagas when i was growing up. this kept reminding me of follow the amazing stories but it was real it is amazing media story, immigrants story, in new york story and construction business story. my first question s which story resonated with you the most why you do the research and what came to life and the unexpected way and which talked to you in a way that you were not expecting? >> guest: my grandfather story because he came over in 1905 at 15 years old with no money, did not speak english, the first night was spent on a park bench but yet went on to build most of new york city and owned the largest -- company in the world price started "the deeds of my fathers" to ponder the "nat