release the virus specimen so people can study, that sounds like a cover-up, you were at fort paul dietrich, you worked there during ebola, what are you hearing in that community about what's going on with the laboratories. >> i worked for the armed forces medical intelligence center where there's a bilevel poor lab, these are incredible labs and scientists work in spacesuits with air tubes putting air in the suits to breathe and it's all pumped out of the room and purified. the state department said that china attempted to run a lab in wuhan and it was run very badly that there was gross safety violations, what esper is suggesting is a good idea, no treaty like the convention does not have an inspections regime, i think it should have one and i think we should negotiate that as soon as possible. liz: do you think china will not happen. >> there are a lot of nations that are very leery of agreeing to this, i think our goal right now should be to try to convince china to shut down the wet market into voluntarily allow some inspections of the laboratories in wuhan, the loss of face is a big d