. >> well, my mother used to tell me that i was named after paul dunbar. and she read to me all his poems as a child. so, it left an indelible impression. so, i think that i was stamped from birth. to have a respect for the written word and the joy in the respect for it. so that's what got me started. in 1965 when i was a reporter for the oakland post i went to selma. i had an opportunity to have 14 hours of exclusive interviews and walks because i doubled as both a reporter. and then usher. >> to montgomery. that was when i waited for journalism and civil rights activism. >> as you mentioned, what did you think of the movie and the creation event. they captured the essence and it was accurate. and those scenes of showing doctor king that was real. so, the viewer got a chance. one of the other reasons we said that was because, i saw myself in there. so, the movie was definitely accurate. >> when i met you in the late 60s, you were so involved in the community. so, i immediately withdrew to all the work that you're doing. what inspired you to continue to wo