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host: joint on the phone now by paul egan. his byline is on most of the stories yesterday, coming out about this plot to kidnap the governor. take us through what we know at this point about this kidnapping plot so far. how far it got before it was foiled. well, what we know is there were a number of conversations that were going on both in person and in some cases encrypted or in private facebook groups discussing a number of plots, including one to kidnap the governor, possibly from her summer vacation home. that was the one that seemed to advance the furthest, to the point where a high-voltage taser was purchased, night goggles. there was supposed to have been a purchase of explosives this week taking place. there was discussion about detonating a bridge near her summer cottage to divert police, and there was actually evening -- thatance that was had occurred on two occasions of her summer home. that is about what we have. there was a lot of talk, which can sometimes -- you can always ask the question, where they just talki

host: paul egan, with the "detroit free press." i know it was a busy day for you yesterday. thank you for starting your day early with us. we appreciate the time. guest: thanks for having me on. host: staying on the michigan story for a moment more here, these are the remarks from governor gretchen whitmer yesterday, reacting to the charges that were released by federal authorities. [video clip] governor whitmer: this should be a moment for national unity, pulled together as americans to meet this challenge head, with the same might and muscle that put a man on the moon. soon, the humanity in one another, and doing our part to help our country get through this. instead, our head of state has spent the past seven months denying science, ignoring his own health experts, stoking , andust, fomenting anger giving comfort to those who spread fear and hatred and division. just last week, the president of the united states stood before the american people and refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups like these two michigan militia groups. "stand back and standby," he to

. >> host: on the phonehi now by paul egan, detroit free press, l a ansing bureau chief.is on most of the stories yesterday coming out about this plot to kidnap the governor. take us through what we know at this point about this kidnapping plot so far, how far it got edfore it was foiled. >> guest: okay. well, what we know is there were a number of conversations that were going on both in person and in some cases encrypted over oprivate facebook groups discussing a number of plots including one to kidnap the governor possibly from her summer vacation home. that was the one that seemed to advance furthest, to the point where a high voltage taserrer was purchased, night goggles. there was supposed to have been a purchase of explosives this week taking place. there was discussion about detonating a bridge near her summer cottage to divert police, and theree was actually evening surveillance that was, that had occurred on two occasions of her summer home. so that's, that's about what we have. there was, you know, there was a lot of talk which, you know, can sometimes -- you c

host: paul egan, with the "detroit free press." i know it was a busy day for you yesterday.hank you for starting your day early with us. we appreciate the time. guest: thanks for having me on. host: staying on the michigan story for a moment more here, these are the remarks from governor gretchen whitmer yesterday, reacting to the charges that were released by federal authorities. [video clip] governor whitmer: this should be a moment for national unity, pulled together as americans to meet this challenge head, with the same might and muscle that put a man on the moon. soon, the humanity in one another, and doing our part to help our country get through this. instead, our head of state has spent the past seven months denying science, ignoring his own health experts, stoking , andust, fomenting anger giving comfort to those who spread fear and hatred and division. just last week, the president of the united states stood before the american people and refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups like these two michigan militia groups. "stand back and standby," he told