gloria michel, paul embery.o bits, but you've just mentioned £18 for a glass of wine. you should be absolutely ashamed of yourself. how love how many families would love that put food on the that money to put food on the table ? it's not me that was table? it's not me that was making up that mythical figure of the price of wine. i went to go and see jordan peterson. as i was telling you all, and that was telling you all, and that was cost that they put on was the cost that they put on the wine. i wasn't actually paying the wine. i wasn't actually paying for that wine. and my point outrageous are point is how outrageous are still got over it all these still not got over it all these days on it is you shouldn't have bought it. >> you shouldn't have bought it. you have gone. you should you should have gone. you should have you should have taken the tax. you should have taken the tax. you should have taken the tap you have taken the tap water. you should taken tap water should have taken the tap water and the £18. a

paul embery what do you make to this good idea or not?od idea. >> it's a good old fashioned measure to redistribute wealth, isn't it ? isn't it? >> and i'm going to have a bingo board. what can be. >> i'll have full house by about quarter past six. >> it can be wrong with that. i saw the figures, top band in saw the figures, the top band in wales, average house wales, the average house is worth times more than the worth nine times more than the average home in the bottom band, but only attracts but actually only attracts charge of council tax of three and a half times more than the lower band. so in that in that sense, i think it's a regressive tax. i'd get rid of council tax altogether, to be honest. i think it's out there. it's only introduced as an emergency measure. replace it with what i would see something like measure. replace it with what i wlocal see something like measure. replace it with what i wlocal incomeee something like measure. replace it with what i wlocal income taxomething like measure. replace it with what i wlocal in

panel conservative life peer in the house of lords, daniel moylan and writer and trade unionist paul embery make sure that you get in touch with us this evening. vaiews@gbnews.com or on twitter at gb news. gentlemen, we have brand new stools tonight , so there will be stools tonight, so there will be very little squeaking . how very little squeaking. how comfortable is it this evening? >> i can't believe that i've been given the privilege of being the first person to be allowed to sit in is excessively stool . stool. >> @ i might carry over >> they are. i might carry over to the next show as well. yeah, that's gb is that's all right. gb news is going up in the world. >> have brand new stools, >> we have brand new stools, right? little glimpse right? it was a little glimpse of good news today. the first 13 hostages hamas have hostages held by hamas have been released. handed released. they've been handed over the cross as part of over to the red cross as part of a deal for a temporary ceasefire with israel. looking at with israel. we're looking at the from just the pictures here from just a

because i was talking about this earlier with paul embery, who is a trade unionist, and i was askingsrael in gaza and the conservative party itself of course, fighting like rats in a sack. they do seem within both of the political parties in a first past the post system to be split emerging that there could be challenges given opportunities, could there not, that there could be. >> if i was giving advice to the labour party, i would say this issue around gaza and israel is very important to a small number of your activists and to your voters . and i think keir starmer voters. and i think keir starmer is actually played the right card here by being solid down the line saying this is what we stand for as a party because actually most people at the moment care about the fact that economically they're not doing well. and if keir starmer allowed himself to get distracted by this, but what is most people are peripheral issue, he's going to get blown off course. so he to hold off course. so he needs to hold his that's why at the his nerve. and that's why at the moment i think he's done the

i'm joined unionist joined by trade unionist and writer embery the writer paul embery and the deputyuk, ben deputy leader of reform uk, ben habib . thank very much habib. thank you very much indeed. we got through quite a lot there with mark. he brought us very much up date in terms us very much up to date in terms of the pr war that's being waged , very difficult for israel to convince the international community that it is trying its best to limit civilian casualties and of course, the sympathy for israel will diminish as you get further away from the 7th of october. >> letter and the visual impact of death and destruction in gaza is going to increasingly pivot international opinion against israel. i mean, one of the interesting things about the approach that the israelis have taken is to go in on the ground. you know, the easy option, the opfion you know, the easy option, the option which would have kept hezbollah more hezbollah much more under control north, would have control in the north, would have been commit ground troops been not to commit ground troops and to a continue use

i was hovering the mouse over, but paul embery, thank you enough. very much for your time . paul all much for your time. paul all right, panel, benjamin buttennorth, after that, very rude comment, i am. >> what did he say? >> what did he say? >> he said, i'm fat enough and the turkey's ready . the turkey's ready. >> dismiss you must be a fan of this dismiss. >> you're a they them, aren't you ? you? >> where did we find you? look, you know what? first of all, i'm just glad that we live in a country that is sufficiently stable. we can get bothered about this, to be honest. the real message of that m&s advert is don't need go and is that you don't need to go and you know, get dolled up and spend all the effort on all dolled up. yeah, but it's about saying be with your saying you can just be with your family, can just the family, you can just enjoy the love and pleasure of love and the pleasure of christmas. there was one christmas. >> family throwing an >> there's no family throwing an elf roof. elf off a roof. >> but look, do you know what? >> but look

i was hovering the mouse over, but paul embery, thank you enough. very much for your time . paul all much for your time. paul all right, panel, benjamin buttennorth, after that, very rude comment, i am. >> what did he say? >> what did he say? >> he said, i'm fat enough and the turkey's ready . the turkey's ready. >> dismiss you must be a fan of this dismiss. >> you're a they them, aren't you ? you? >> where did we find you? look, you know what? first of all, i'm just glad that we live in a country that is sufficiently stable. we can get bothered about this, to be honest. the real message of that m&s advert is don't need go and is that you don't need to go and you know, get dolled up and spend all the effort on all dolled up. yeah, but it's about saying be with your saying you can just be with your family, can just the family, you can just enjoy the love and pleasure of love and the pleasure of christmas. there was one christmas. >> family throwing an >> there's no family throwing an elf roof. elf off a roof. >> but look, do you know what? >> but look