our panelists knew one of the great figures and leading to the discussion is paul engelmayer, a graduate of harvard college and law school who worked as a reporter for "the wall street journal" between college and law school. decided to get a real job, i guess. he clerked at the d.c. circuit and following a distinguished career at the united states attorney's office in the southern district and actually a stint at the solicitor general's office, judge engelmayer joined a firm, wilmer. it sounds like a law firm you want to spend $700 an hour on. and that's for the associate. i know. you can tell i've been off the bench for 30 years. in in 2011, judge engelmayer filled the vacancy created and senator grassley gave the judge a hard time for a few weeks but ultimately thought the better of his hold on the judge's nomination. and for good reason. judge engelmayer on july 26th, 2011, was confirmed by a vote of 98-0. now, i've gone back and looked at the vote on june 12th of 2003 and my vote was 97-0. judge engelmayer, i don't know how you got that extra vote. i don't know. congratulations. jud